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  1. Jungle Jane

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    I quite agree. I'm sure we are being ripped off here. Perhaps because they can hold us to ransom as we are desperate to get our cooker back. May get other quotes if Mr Jane will allow it.
     
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      Good idea.
       
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        I've removed what I posted here as it was for what we had done for water and not gas!! Had them done about the same time and I got mixed up.:sad: Idiot! :doh:

        We did have the gas redone but I've checked and it was done in copper.

        Apology below :)
         
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        Our meter is in the house, under the stairs to be exact. The guy who gave us the quote came round and took one look at the pipework that we had installed two years ago and said that we would need a wider pipe as the boiler and the cooker wouldn't have enough gas fed to them. So he said we just need to unclip the old pipework and install a larger one which run around the outside of the house. This is all copper, so I'm presuming that this will take a fair amount of time to do. The gas pipe then runs into our back bedroom and into the new boiler. The plan is to then add a second pipe and have this run down into the floor, through a wall and out into the kitchen downstairs.

        I've never heard of them using plastic pipe for a job like this. I always thought they used copper pipework for gas. Was told it would be a days work, which to be honest I'm more concerned about.

        He won't touch the gas work. I was trying to persuade him to install an electric cooker and wiring instead but he refuses to as it will invalidate our part p certificate on the house. It's frustrating really as Mr Jane deals with electrical cable for his job all the time. Having a sparky round today to give us a quote on the electrical work as I have missed cooking with electric since moving here.
         
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        Hi Jane,

        Many apologies. :love30: I'm going to remove my post as it was the new water pipes that I was referring to being plastic :doh: and not the gas - I've looked up the paperwork.

        I understand that plastic can be used for gas outside the house but it's better to use copper inside the house.
         
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        Just got a quote from a local sparky who has given us a quote of £60 to connect all the bits up if we ran the cables in etc.

        Mr Jane still wants gas though, even though I've always wanted a electric cooker.
         
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          I had an electric cooker, didn't half use up some juice :yikes:

          My last one was LPG, that only cost £65 a year to run :)
           
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          Electric cookers are so much cleaner to use than gas, I miss mine, it had a ceramic top and was SO easy to clean, I have gas now but would prefer to change back.
           
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          I don't like electric cookers and love cooking on gas because it's so versatile. When we had our kitchen converted from the 1954 version the fitters tried to persuade me to have an electric hob and a separate built-in electric double oven.

          I resisted, and bought this cooker that I'm very happy with.

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            While all this has been going on I have looked into what would be better gas or electric. It seems gas is cheaper to run but apart from that it seems to be personal preference.

            I hate cleaning my hobs at the moment and miss the ceramic hobs my parents had, was so easy to clean in comparison.

            We have that cooker where I work, but in an electrical form :biggrin:

            I don't get what you mean by versatile. Don't get my wrong I used to love gas when I first got it when we moved here but now I've grown to dislike it. You can't cook things evenly in the oven as everything is cooked on the top shelf and it hardly touches the second shelf and the hobs cook a bit too rapid for me and are so noisy compared to cooking with electric.

            I've found cooking much more relaxing with the little electrical hobs we have as things take their time rather than being rushed. If that makes sense. :th scifD36:

            Last night I made the best custard I have ever made and I think it was because the saucepan didn't heat up so quickly.
             
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            Very nice cooker shiney! I must say as well, that when we were having power cuts here I was very thankful to have gas.
             
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            I don't like the colour Shiney.
             
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            Nice colour, I like green.
             
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            We've got a gas hob and electric oven, again just personal preferences.
             
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            Gas hobs are much more able to give a variation of heat and the heat drops immediately when turned down. An electric hob takes time to cool down.

            I realise that my cooker has a wider variety of cooking facilities than smaller ones but the heat output can change from very hot to almost not being there in just a couple of seconds.

            Re the oven(s): All ovens have hotter top shelves than those lower down unless they're fan assisted ovens. Most electric ovens have that facility but most gas don't. The lower left oven on my cooker is fan assisted and produces heat evenly throughout the inside. The upper right one is not fan assisted and is good for when you want to use the oven to cook things at different temperatures.

            Most chefs prefer gas hobs but tend to use electric ovens as there are few fan assisted ovens. Also, some professional electric ovens have grilling facilities inside them. My grill is the top left compartment and is very big, therefore quite versatile (it can be used as a grill on the upper levels or for heating if just using the bottom of it). The bottom right compartment is a slow oven (electric :blue thumb:).

            The oval area on the hob is an electric warming plate. It will keep things warm or can be used for heating things very slowly from the bottom (ideal for putting a bowl of chocolate on it for melting it for chocolate pots/mousse etc. :)). In front of the warming plate is a wok burner (exceptionally high heat possible as it has two gas rings in it)

            I do a lot of cooking and, sometimes, have all hobs and ovens in use at the same time. I do some cooking for charities and also provide some of Mrs Shiney's seriously ill patients with goody bags of a week's meals for them. :dbgrtmb:
             
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