Inspiration for a newbie on this garden please (on a budget)

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  1. cable_guy

    cable_guy Apprentice Gardener

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    Hi all,

    I was after some inspiration for ideas of what I can do with my garden please

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    Since this was taken, the flags are now sloping dramatically more towards the conifers (the cause behind this has been recitified)

    Although I don't want the flags, and I don't know what else to have with a limited budget and lack of skill! I had thought about artificial grass for my daughter to play on as I would like something low maintenance for personal reasons, (is artificial grass a dirty word around here?) . I don't think real turf would grow as it is very dark in this area.

    Skill wise - underneath the flag stones there is concrete....I don't know how I would go about putting soil on that and grass growing, nor how I would level the ground, but I'm willing to try stuff out and learn.

    Any advice is helpful, thanks in advance.
     
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      Hmm. well, those conifers can be a problem for any ideas of borders along them as they suck moisture and nutrients and make it hard for other plants. Containers could be an answer. Perhaps taking out one or four slabs to make island borders for interest??:dunno::coffee::snork:
       
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        Thanks for your reply armandii. To clarify your idea, do you mean take out 4 rows of slabs from the conifers inwards and put pots plants on the ground?
         
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        Well, there looks to be a six slab width so possibly a 2 x 2 square in the middle giving you a two slab width on either side to walk around. They could be, in truth, any size or length and any number of squares depending on your own taste. As for putting pot plants on the ground in place of the slabs....well, there wouldn't be much point as you could just put the pots in position onto the slabs:dunno: No, but if the idea interested you, I would dig the exposed soil over and mix a generous amount of compost in the soil and then put in any array of annuals, perennials, or small shrubs.:coffee::snork:
         
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          If there is concrete under the flags that would be a big job to remove and as ARMANDII said those conifers would make trying to grow anything there extremely difficult.I think artificial grass would look rather nice and then I'd go for containers :dbgrtmb:
           
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            Thanks, that's certainly an idea.

            I was more tempted by something with turf or fake grass (unless I get hounded off this forum for mentioning it!?) for my little girl to play on, the area is about 50 metre squared, so quite a lot of scope for playing area AND perhaps another area. One thing that had tempted me is putting half grass/fake grass and half something else like block paving etc, but I have no clue about laying this kind of thing.
             
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            What do you mean by containers sorry? Potting plants? or those fancy wooden sleeper structures which contain little trees?

            I thought the concrete under the slabs may mean it's hard work :( I wonder if I could spray stones of some kind around the concrete base and lay artificial grass on top of that!? I told you i'm a newbie lol :P
             
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            I don't know anything about the artificial grass,wondered if you could maybe lay it on top of the slabs if you'd prefer not to remove them and save work:blue thumb:... The 'containers' .Large pots that you can plant up with plants of your choice.It looks like you have some ornamental grasses in your border already so you could plant the planters up with some too.There's some really colourful and attractive varieties to choose from:dbgrtmb:
             
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              There should only be a fixing patch of mortar under the slabs to keep them level and in place with underlying soil so it wouldn't be hard work if you took your time......it doesn't have to be done in a day. I would lift one slab in the center and have a look. Do you know what kind of soil you have in the garden??, Clay?, Sandy?, Loamy? etc.

              Containers could mean any clay/plastic/metal pot of any size or shape. The sleepers usually line raised beds or borders, I use them to hold back the soil in my raised borders.

              Not being a fan of artificial grass:hate-shocked: I wouldn't consider using it in the context of gardening. It is used, obviously, in some instances but usually for children to play on or where the person is too busy or not interested in gardening.:dunno:
               
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              It's a large "blob" in the centre of the slab, I will take more than one slab up to see what the pattern looks like. Can I assume it's a case of digging up the cement blob and going back to scratch and putting new soil in to get it level, then planting grass on top?

              No, is there an easy way to tell?


              I now have them stopping my land subsiding into the area a 10 foot descent just behind those conifers! :hate-shocked:[/QUOTE]
               
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                Near enough, the mortar shouldn't be all that deep and a quick turn over of the soil will help aerate it and adding compost will enrich it..........grass is an option!!:snork:

                Well, without putting a spade in, one way is to ask does the garden retain water easily, or does rain drain away fairly easily? Clay doesn't drain very well, ask Mr G who posts regularly here regarding his struggles with a clay based soil, sandy and loamy soil will drain nicely and leave no really squelchy lawns.
                They are useful. My garden is on a depth of around 300 to 400 feet of sand and I can walk over my lawn without any squelching after a heavy rain. Most of my borders are at least a foot or or more above my paths so I use sleepers to retain the soil from slipping onto them.
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                  grass is so cheap compared to artificial I'm really tempted to try it, it's just I have 200ft + trees surrounding me which means it only gets a flash of daylight at certain times of day, hence I'm worried it won't grow and be a waste.

                  I really can't tell the soil type yet as I've literally no idea on the drainage. I live in North Staffordshire though so I'm quite likely to have some clay in there.

                  I am inspired by your helpful and encouraging posts to try and dig up the concrete blob underneath the flags and see what is there, maybe I could just level the ground with top soil and try grass on it.

                  Your garden looks great!
                   
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                    I'm going to buck the trend, CG, and suggest you cost out artificial turf to see if it's feasible. A combination of shade and conifer roots, whatever the soil type, is not going to produce a great-looking lawn. Then you'd need to mow it regularly.
                    If I was you, I'd invest in a no-maintenance surface that would be kind to your little girl's knees, with a few big pots of colourful flowering plants.
                     
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