I'm scheming again...

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  1. Fat Controller

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    This may run to a post or two, so I apologise in advance.

    Some of you may remember I asked about the height of a path that is in a lawn a while back (can't find it now, sorry), and the consensus seemed to be that it was best to have it level to make for easiest mowing. However, I am now contemplating getting shot of the blighter completely.

    Also in advance, please excuse the rough and ready garden, and the even rougher idea images that follow (they are very, very rough........... did I mention they were rough? :snork:)

    This is the current situation:

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    Rather than lift and relay the path, I am contemplating lifting it and grassing it, then sculpting the outer edges of the lawn into more of a kidney shape (ish)

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    • CharlieBot

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      Go for it! Just make sure you'll be able to reach/get at anything at the back of the border needing regularish maintenance.
       
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        What does that path do exactly FC? It looks like a road to nowhere to me? :) I agree with you, perhaps it's time for it to go and your thoughts to flow on a new layout! :biggrin:
         
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          Looks like a great project big improvement. Show the before /after photos of course.
           
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            That is just it - it goes to the top of the garden, and nowhere else. Its been squint since it was laid, and is now slowly sinking and being overtaken by grass. Even after a good going over with the pressure washer, it still looks rotten to me.....
             
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              I somehow think it's days are numbered then! :heehee:
               
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                I agree that the path doesn't appear to have a destination and that is the purpose of a path. By removing it will you end up with anyone beating a different path across the lawn? Plans look good.
                 
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                I'm in two minds about the path (not that I mean the one you have is in the right place!) :scratch:
                The reason for that is simple, especially as you are planning to extend your borders. Lawns are not meant to be walked on when they are frosted/water saturated but with larger borders, you may still need access across the lawn for maintenance purposes. So, give that some consideration *before* you dig up the path and dispose of it altogether.
                The pavers could always be used as stepping stones to lead you in a meandering direction to ...
                ... *somewhere* ... The fact it doesn't lead anywhere now, doesn't mean it couldn't lead somewhere at some point.

                For example: if you intend to deepen the boarder at the rear fence anyway, you could (where your green splodge meets your red line) put in an arch (relatively good value ones to be had from the likes of Wilkos/B&M etc). Then, you can "borrow" the view of your landscape - I notice one of your neighbours (two maybe three gardens down) has a nice evergreen which, the arch could "frame" and would draw the eye along to give the appearance that your garden goes on further. You could then either grow beans up the arch or flowering climbers to give it a purpose. I still wouldn't keep the path as one long block, but would make it lead to the arch as stepping stones.

                Definitely deepen the boarders, but, think carefully about the shape you choose for the purpose of ease of mowing ;)

                That's my first thoughts (and it is still BC here - before coffee :heehee: )

                Good luck with whatever you decide to do with it to make the space work for you :blue thumb:
                 
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                  I agree, get rid :)
                  Have you considered an S shaped lawn so you have two peninsulas of border coming out into the lawn? If you then grow tallish stuff the exact layout will be hidden and more interesting in that the unknown is always worth exploring. You will be able to reach into those borders from both sides too.
                  Ha ha creates more space for plants ;)
                   
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                    A feature in the middle may look nice pond perhaps.
                     
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                      It will be hard work taking that path up and filling in, you could retain it and put some feature at the end to make it look like it leads somewhere, like the arch 'M' posted above and a few carefully selected evergreens to suggest a path to the arch beyond.
                       
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                        Nothing shapelier than an ogee curve. My old technical drawing tutor said "When you reach my age you will come to realise that the female form is just a random collection of ogee curves!

                        Cheers, Tony.:yahoo:
                         
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                          I once got advice from a Landscape Architect on that and it was to have the path set slightly below lawn level, a lawn will 'sink' with continual removal of cuttings, but veggie growing areas tend to slowly increase in depth.
                           
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                            @"M" - is there such a thing as a 'nice' evergreen :biggrin:? I have four 'thieves' that would not be here if I actually owned the place - - the arch idea is a maybe though; I like arches (maybe with a nice clematis or something), but I am under strict orders to keep as much running about space as possible for little C.

                            @hans - a pond is a non-starter for us, not least as we don't own the place. I will get away with some modifications (I can always pile the slabs from the path up behind the shed and they can be reinstated if anyone has an issue with it being gone), but I don't think I would get away with a pond

                            @JWK - half the trouble with the existing path is that it has simply been walloped down on top of the soil, and it is either sinking or going wonky; I have had it up in places already, and lifting it all should take less than an hour I reckon; the fastest solution thereafter will be to get some rolls of tuft and then dig out accordingly to fit them in. The ground is generally prone to sinking (my patio has been like the Himalayas since I moved in :biggrin:, which I suspect is making matters worse on the grass.
                             
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                              Yes, I did spot *your* thieves - but I suitably ignored them :whistle:
                              I certainly do get the strict instructions on keeping as much running space as practicable - I did consider little C - arches take such a small amount of (ground) space. In the scenario I tried to describe, any arch in that area would literally border your lawn/rear border space, thus taking up little or no extra space in your own scheme of things. Mind you: that is all subjective and I'm not trying to thrust any ideas upon you (merely, defending the one I presented :lunapic 130165696578242 5: ). The actual arch could be sited on the edge of the border you wish to create, or, could be lawn side - very adaptable items, arches :heehee:

                              Finally - yes! There are indeed "nice" evergreens ... most especially when they are two or three gardens BEHIND!!! :heehee: ;)
                               
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