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  1. GYO newbie

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    Hi. Planning next steps and where I should move seedlings on to in the coming weeks.

    I am right in thinking I should try and keep cherry toms, peppers, cucumber, melon under cover? - I have a temp/plastic greenhouse .

    Courgettes - do they need support? A trellis?

    Mangetout, peas, beans do need support - wigwam type.

    Do dwarf/patio fruit trees (apples, pear) need to be in constant sun light?

    I have a couple of shadier areas I was going to place some growbags. What could I plant/sow in them


    I have a pen and paper and are mapping the next steps out.


    All help would be gratefully received.
     
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    How could I forget my wonderful sweet corn. Do they need support as they grow?

    Butternut squash. What depth is best to grow them in?

    Got a busy day tomorrow - planning erecting and moving to accommodate what is a growing GYO farmstead!
     
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    Yes you're right in keeping Toms,Peppers,cues and Melon undercover:blue thumb:

    The courgettes will be fine without support,they'll just ramble.

    If the peas and beans are the dwarf varieties they'll just need small supports,(small sticks but if they're climbers they'll need taller wig wams:dbgrtmb:

    You could sow some salad leaves in the grow bags they prefer a bit of shade:dbgrtmb:

    Your sweet corn will be fine and won't need support:dbgrtmb:

    Just bear in mind the temperatures could drop,especially overnight and it's early days for the likes of sweetcorn and beans,keep some fleece handy or hold back planting out if you can:dbgrtmb:
     
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      Thank Naughty Ginger Gardener. How much rambling space would one courgette plant require?

      I want to make sure my plan works in terms of locations, space, companion planting. As well as being able to protect those which will need protecting from birds, slugs.

      From all those mentioned above, plus beetroot, carrots, onions, spring onions, potatoes, broccoli, butternut squash, salad leaves. Which need guarding from slugs and which will birds make a bee line for? I have strawberries and blueberries which I know will have to go under netting at some point.

      Do onions sets cope with a shadier spot?

      Sorry for all the questions - just keen to get it right.

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      Birds will pull up young onion sets, easy just to push them back in - check each morning.

      Birds and butterflies/caterpillars will strip broccoli so that needs netting.

      Slugs will attack all the above!
       
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        Bloody slugs!!!!!!!

        But butterflies - didn't realise they were a pest. I thought 'us' gardeners liked butterflies?
         
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          I love butterflies, but the cabbage white caterpillar is named for a good reason, it doesn't just like cabbage but all brassicas: broccoli, sprouts, kale & caulis.
           
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          Ooooh - little devils.
           
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            Courgettes take up a reasonable amount of space unless they're miniatures. They usually grow to about a metre diameter.

            Butternut squash need a lot more as they ramble all over the place. You can restrict the area the plants take up by training them in a circle (their natural habit is to ramble along the ground and can easily run three or four metres) and nipping out their growing tips when they've filled your area.

            This is just four plants!

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              Ooooooh - that changes my plans a bit. They look great by the way. Haven't really research squash - but hubby was making a list of stuff we buy regularly that we could grow and squash was on his list. I think I thought, 1 seed, 1 product. How many BNS would you get from one plant?

              I wonder - I have a 1 meter diameter round raised bed (temp plastic thing), I could give half to courgette and half to BNS and contain them that way.

              Thanks for your help. Its always appreciated.
               
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              As it happens I am going to a wigwam making course tomorrow. Coincidence.

              How BNS per plant?
               
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                When I was growing them I got between four and eight per plant and they weighed from four to ten pounds each.

                Most courgette plants would take up that space each. There are smaller varieties but I've never tried them.
                 
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                Errrmmmm - decisions. Got a bit more time to think as work commitments mean I wont get out in the garden until Bank Hol Monday now.

                Will check again which variety i have got of courgette. Thats a lot of space as I have three plants to plant out. As for BNS - growing up could be tricky, especially if I do have 8 per plant. Not that I have even sowed seeds yet for BNS. I can see me taking over the entire garden - not sure what hubby will make of that. I have corn to find room for and cucumber. I will experiment with some cucumber outside and others in a small plastic green house/grow home. They are an outside variety.

                Lots to do, think about and research!
                 
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                  All Alliums, but I mainly think of leeks and garlic, have an increased risk of rust if planted in "shadier spots".
                   
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