2015 Tomato Growing

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    Lots of green tomatoes on my little bush toms.

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      I would, until these frosts are finished with :blue thumb:
       
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        Thankfully, no frost here :phew: but will bring them inside anyway: :ThankYou:
         
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          Is it too early to put my tomato plants (5 Tumbling Tom, 1 Moneymaker) into their forever pots yet? I realise now that I planted them too early. They are in plastic greenhouse now (open in day, zipped up at night) and are looking worryingly leggy. I could put in large pots and keep in plastic greenhouse until no frosts, but am wondering if the compost in them - from tomato grobags - would still be enough to feed them, along with Tomorite?
           
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          Hi JJ28, are they flowering yet? If not I'd wait, otherwise the fresh compost might encourage them to grow even taller before flowering. They don't need much in the way of feed prior to the first truss setting.

          When you do come to transferring into their final pots you can plant them very deep, strip off any leafs that would be below the compost level. Put the root right at the bottom of the pot, this will make the long thin leggy stems develop roots.
           
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            Great @JWK I knew about being able to get rid of a bit of legginess by transplanting deep but not so extreme as to take off leaves. This treatment will be ideal for my somewhat twisted stemmed Sungolds who experienced a couple of cold nights in my greenhouse prior to being lugged back into the house...sigh! They are still sitting on my heated propagator pad as nights here are baltic atm.
            Having been extremely successful (thanks to my new heated propagator and lights rather than being a smart ar.s:)) I have huge numbers of Tomato plants. Some of a couple of the varieties are starting to flower already which is a good month earlier than last year with no heated propagator so it has achieved what I wanted, hopefully, ie having Tomatoes to eat before August!
            Question, if I stop some of the Sungold after say 2 trusses will the fruit ripen quicker? I can afford to do this with some of the plants and then bin those as have loads of other Sungolds and other later fruiting varities. I'm just not sure if stopping early will encourage early ripening. Also I've been told that tomatoes flower and ripen quicker if grown in the likes of grow bags (which I hate!) rather than in the soil borders in the greenhouse. Not sure if this is true and if it is, would I get the same effect by growing some of the plants in pots? as I refuse to buy growbags! Thanks.
             
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              The fruit will develop quicker if you stop a tomato, but it's heat that is needed for ripening. What I do with a couple of my early plants is to stop them after two trusses, I keep them in pots purely so I can move them to the warmest spot in the greenhouse then chuck the whole plant away after the fruit have ripened.

              Not heard that before, and I reckon it's not true. As I said it's heat that makes them ripen. Commercial growers use ethylene gas to hasten ripening, for us amateurs that's not really an option.

              The other thing that will hasten flowering is to stress the plants, so placing them in a small grow bag might do that, but in the long run you have to keep actively watering and feeding as the volume of a grow bag is so small compared to growing them in soil. Keeping the plants in a smaller pot so they are root bound will also stress them before final planting out. As you have flowers now they are ready to go into the soil (temperatures permitting!)
               
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                Thank you @JWK. Our night temperatures are meant to go up considerably after this weekend so will put some that are flowering in bigger pots and plant the rest in the greenhouse borders during next week.If the temperatures tumble again after that I'm giving up for the year:gaah:. My Tomato plants must be some of the best travelled having been in the house, out to the greenhouse and back in again 4 times. The weather so far this Spring has been really odd, far hotter than the norm and now so cold at night.
                 
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                  Thank you JWK. I have no flowers at the moment. They were looking as if wilting a day ago so I gave good watering - still look as if wilting! I shall keep close eye on them and plant right down in big pots when they do.
                   
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                    Don't let the compost get all soggy, although it's worse to underwater, it is also possible to over-water, which stops the roots breathing and the plants wilt with the same symptoms! Difficult little beggars aren't they :)
                     
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                      JWK's right. I'm an overwaterer and it brings all sorts of problems.
                      But I also have a variety of tomato called Teton de Venus, which specialises in looking miserable however hot or cold, wet or dry it is! :scratch:
                       
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                        Important bit done, my BIG lads have been potted on, Big Boy ahead of Big Zac at the mo!
                         
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                          Potted up my Big Zacs too Vince :)

                          Manx Marvels are developing flower buds :)

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                          Too stormy to harden them off yet though :sad:

                          Potted a couple on.
                           
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                            Hi John.....when stripping off these leafs, should I remove their stems too back to the main stem of the plant or just take off the leafs?
                             
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                            Fern, you snap off the leaf at the joint to the main stem. Use your fingers - apply a little pressure up then down on the leaf joint and it snaps off cleanly, the wound heals much quicker with less chance of infection if you used a blade or snippers :dbgrtmb:
                             
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