What is ailing these fellows?

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    A friend has asked my advice, and I don't have enough knowledge to give a full answer, so I turn to the good folks of CG for help yet again :)

    The following are images of plants that she has that seem to be either ailing in some way or under attack, but I know no more than that....


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    These first two are concerning the holes in the leaves; this was planted last year, with a decent load of ericaceous compost for good measure, and has also had ericaceous feed. This one seems to me to be being eaten by something, but what?

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    This chappie is in a planter, in ericaceous compost and again has been fed with ericacaeous feed. The compost was moist, but not wet and was not compacted. This one appears to me to be some sort of scorch (temperature or chemical?), but again I cannot make any sense of it.

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    And finally this one - notice there are a couple of leaves that have taken on a sort of wrinkled effect, and others that appear to be missing chunks - is it too being eaten?

    All suggestions welcomed
     
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      looks like "leaf Blight " to me, caused by a fungus.

      In the past you could get a fungicide to spray them, but I dont know if still available to buy.

      At first I thought could be vine weevil damage as well but it would have more notches in the side of the leaf not the middle so I would say its where the fungus has grown caused it to die and probably turn brown and that is how the holes have been produced.

      Lets see what are other GC members may think ....
       
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      Yes, I agree about it probably not being Vine Weevil, usually notches around the edge of the leaves. As for fungicide, would not Bordeaux Mixture be worth trying?
       
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        Well the first 3 pics are rhodos or azaleas aren't they? best ask @merleworld about those.
         
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          Bit of an odd one - all you can see is holes on the first one and the rest of the plant looks relatively healthy:noidea: I'm not an expert but could be fungal - but also could anything caustic have been spilled on it ? Could some sort of caterpillar have eaten it? Have a look at the pic on this link.

          The last one may be Vine Weevil or some other beastie as that has been eaten on the edges of the leaves.

          FC if you email the pics to Millais Nurseries they are usually very helpful. Might get more responses if you have it moved to the 'pests and diseases' bits.
           
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          I reckon the holes in the leaves were caused by snails.

          The brown bits are probably a fungus, if it appears on the new growth I would be worried, but as its on the old leaves, I wouldn't worry too much, you wont be able to see it in a few weeks.

          Might be worth spraying the new growth with a fungicide, once its hardened up around late July, as a guess.
           
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          My initial thoughts were vine weevil, I must admit, and Provado vine weevil pesticide has been used - of course, that won't help the leaves already holed - the scorch type symptom put me off a bit too, but I didn't think anything fungal. What fungicide would be worth trying (I don't think bordeaux is available now is it?)

          @pete - would snails eat azaleas and rhodies?

          @merleworld - I think you have hit the nail on the head, as those pictures showing caterpillar damage look exactly like those I observed when I was there last week. I will hold off from emailing the nursery at the minute (but thank you for the link), and will move this thread (good point, that I didn't even consider, thank you again :))
           
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          I've got only one Rhodo, but it has the same holes in the leaves.

          Dont have the brown areas on any leaves though.
           
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            Bordeaux Mixture is still available
             
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              Thanks @Freddy - I will suggest that as a possible one to try then; I assume that there is no harm from it if there is nothing for it to deal with?
               
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              I can't imagine there would be any problem with it. Thinking about it, I'm not sure if it will actually get rid of any fungal infection as its normally used as a preventative measure.

              Just looked it up, seems it won't be effective once the fungus is present.
               
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                Ah, time for me to dig in the shed then - I reckon I have a fungal treatment somewhere (a bayer one if I remember rightly), so IF I can find it (and that is a BIG IF given the state of my shed) then I can give her some of that to try.

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                Just had another look at mine, it looks like it happened a while ago, the holes are not fresh, and I agree it could have been some kind of caterpillar, but probably last year.
                Sorry pic is a bit dark. DSC_0074.JPG
                 
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