Help identifying 2 trees please.

Hi all. There are 2 trees in the middle of the garden at my new house and I need a bit of help identifying them, if possible.
I just want to know what they are so I can decide whether to replant them elsewhere in the garden or give them to a friend of mine.
I will attach pics.
Thanks for any help you can provide.
The first 2 pics are the first tree and the second 2 are the second tree.

 

Anyone able to help?

 

Perhaps it would be better to put these pictures in the 'Identification' forum Bokkie, they may get more response.

I'm not much good with tree id's but the top pictures are an ornamental fruit tree I think, which one I couldn't tell you, sorry!

 

Great minds think alike Armandii!

 

Very tricky. Where do you live? (Just checking you are in the UK as I've once tried to ID a plant from someone living in a completely different climate!)

The first one does look like a fruit or blossom tree in the Rosaceae family i.e. related to apples, cherries etc. Sorry I can't help you further.

 

Tricky.
Not enough detail to be able to say.
1. Has the look of Pyrus...pear but without a good close up of a single flower (when fresh) I cannot be sure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pear

 

the first looks like a pear tree,would have had white flowers before the baby pears you see now
a big maybe the 2nd, plum tree did it have any flowers,would have been white have a look inside for any maybe baby fruit can hide behind leave's,i've had Victoria which would do nothing but grow