Depth of Field

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    This morning I set my camera at ISO 800 125 speed at F11 just to get the image sharp throughout :smile:

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    Does ISO 800 not produce a lot of noise for you?

    Personally if I want a uniform DoF I will use F8 ISO100 and whatever shutterspeed light will allow. That said, if it was darkish when you took this, such high ISO is understandable.

    F8 seems to be the sweet spot for same depth of field at all distances in good daylight
     
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      Hi @stephenprudence to me noise starts at ISO 800 but that depends on the situation,yes it was very early this morning and I tried it on ISO 400 and all I could get was a shutter speed of 40/50,had it been under normal daylight conditions I normally use F 11 at ISO 100,and when I take photos of model soldiers for a local club I use F 22 and upwards,thanks for your post found it interesting:smile:
       
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      that explains it.. did you hand hold the camera? it would be interesting to see results with the same settings on a tripod
       
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        Hi @stephenprudence yes handheld with the Tamron SP AF 70-300 F/4-5.6 Di VC USD lens
        which is the best lens performance wise I have ever owned:smile:
         
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          Tamron 70-300 is an excellent lens.. considering it is a budget lens at around £100 maybe even cheaper.. for Canon, Sigma, and Nikon equivalent you can pay £2-300 for a lens (70-300) that is not that much better than Tamron.
           
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            Good morning @stephenprudence I think you have got the wrong lens this is the Special edition Tamron SP AF 70-300 F/4-5.6 Di VC USD lens its about £250:smile:


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            This is the other one priced at £89

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            A good tripod is worth its weight in gold. The following close-up was taken late evening in poor light in the greenhouse..................
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            Using the tripod I was able to use F8 at ISO 400 with a 1/20 shutter speed timer fired. These settings with the stock 18-55 lens still allow for the blurred background hiding the fact that it is in the greenhouse but noise is still an issue. Unusually for my camera I had to adjust the white balance slightly towards the red spectrum to get the colour right.
             
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              Good morning @longk my friend yes I agree the tripod is essential if the subject is still,but for moving subjects ie birds in flight,Bees ect its handheld for me,I have got so used to not using a tripod but in future I will make a point of using it in the garden ect:smile:
               
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                Good morning @longk I took this this morning all at F8 at 1/25 on the tripod with my Tamron 70 x 300 telephoto lens:smile:

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                  I hardly ever use mine :lunapic 130165696578242 5:

                  Being serious now though it has great colour Woo. You have set the contrast nicely too.
                  I have a Nikon and it struggles with some reds - I suspect that would have been a real battle for me to get a good colour likeness using anything other than flash mode.
                   
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                    Good morning @longk and thank you yes I never realised the difference it makes,I got it out of the attic it was covered in dust and about 30 years old,I am now going to get a new tripod but not sure which one,thanks for your input my friend its much appreciated,enjoy your Sunday:smile:
                     
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                    I presume you have gone with ISO800 again? If so that's a good capture, you've managed to minimise the noise rather well.. it's still there but not distracting from the subject (the rose).. There is some Chromatic abberation around the edges of the rose.. therefore I suspect you were zoomed in at 300mm? (maximum)? If that's the case, try zooming in at about three quarters the way and it should get rid of any CA. ps I always have problems with halo, chromatic abberation and lack of definition if I was zoomed in at 280-300mm. The following shots I took a few years ago describe this a little bit better

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                    75.5mm

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                    and this take at 300mm (note the lack of sharpness and definition and huge amounts of chrom. abb.

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                    Hi @stephenprudence I always value you your input and thank you:smile:

                    “You should never assume or presume you know what happens when you assume. You make an ass out of you and me because that's how it's spelled.”;) only joking my friend,no the ISO was 100 :smile:

                    I always leave all the property information on my images ,I have nothing to hide,I don't know why people don't leave it for all to see,still each to their own;)

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                    I use it mostly for doing studies when the weather is poor. A few examples..................
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                    The one thing that I regret is not buying one with a tilt facility on the mount.
                     
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