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    @Pauline3700 - leave your PC on and connected to the net for a day or overnight, and it will download the necessary files in the background and should be ready to install the following day. Keep checking by clicking on the icon on the taskbar and it will tell you when it is ready.
     
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    There is no such a thing as a free lunch Pauline .... Windows 10 is only free because Microsoft want to have more control over everybody's computers and everybody's lives. Trust me ... this is the most invasive product that has arrived on this planet since ... since ... (I can't even think of anything so invasive :) ) Install Windows 10 and nothing (and I mean NOTHING) you ever do on your computer again will be private ... mark my words :)
     
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      Try the KGB in Russia :yikes: :roflol:
       
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        Good afternoon @whis4ey my good friend Oh!yes there is;) since the mobile phone ,the Essex secret police,the nieghbour just a few doors down , and the British Security Industry Authority (BSIA) estimated there are up to 5.9 million closed-circuit television cameras in the country, including 750,000 in "sensitive locations"such as schools,Hospitals and care homes the survey’s maximum estimate works out at one for every 11 people in the UK, although the BSIA said the most likely figure was 4.9 million cameras in total, or one for every 14 people.:lunapic 130165696578242 5:

        That's it I'm going back to Windows 8.1:whistle:
         
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          I've started getting pop ups now telling me to download W 10.

          Persistent little illegitimate children aren't they.

          Very similar to the bloke in Bombay, called Andrew,:snork: who keeps ringing me up and asking me questions about myself, before even asking if I want to do the survey.

          There is always an angle.
           
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            I only have one sensitive location! ;)

            Oh!!! Should I change my script and change my pen name from Andrew? :sad:
             
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              I totally agree with Whis4ey. There is no such thing as a free lunch. I suspect that a large part of the reason is that Windows was such a well known failure that they were afraid many people would abandon Windows for good.

              I don't find W10 much better. Yesterday I lost 15 years worth of photographs. I have just bought a new machine (excellent) with W10 (not excellent) and have been moving my files across. I noticed that there were two copies of my photo directory in file explorer, so I deleted one. However that action deleted both. I have since learnt that File Explorer can show multiple entries of the same thing and that if you delete one entry you delete both. Luckily I could restore it from the waste bin. But I then saw several short cuts to my photo directory also in the waste bin. I have never made a short cut to that file and never deleted one either.

              Afterwards when I did a search, it showed the basic directory and also 5 short cuts placed in places I have never been, like deep in Windows system directory. In Windows XP I felt I was in control and it did what I asked. In W10 I am not in control it does what it wants and ignores me. Another example is that when I browse, I have looked at several PDF files. I now find they have all been downloaded into the Download directory. I don't want that, they are tempory internet files, but won't ever get removed from the download directory unless I am aware and do it myself. I can't wipe them all out en-mass as I have some important files in there that I intentionally downloaded, so I must go through carefully.

              Also there is a music folder and a video folder in Documents. I don't want these - but I can't delete them.
               
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              Good afternoon there is no more wrong with Windows 10 than there was with every other new and different Windows programmes ,lets move forward my friends and accept the inevitable that we hate change and progress:old::heehee: lets just move towards the future with our heads in our hands and a heavy heart:lunapic 130165696578242 5:
               
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                Hi Woo

                I agree, that once a machine is set up and you have learnt how it works, you will be able to use it quite happily.

                However I would disagree that this is like any other change in an operating system. I have had many changes since my first Apple ll. Up until Windows XP, it was very easy to change to a new operating system because they were all aimed exclusively at the business/desktop use. ie they were all designed for me.

                Window 8 and Windows 10 are totally different. They are no longer just designed for my use. They serve two different masters - the business/desktop user and the mobile phone/child user. This is why Windows 8 had such a bad reception from serious users, because it wasn't designed for them. Windows 10 has the same problem. Serving two masters can never be as satisfactory as serving just one.
                 
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                  Ah Woo .... all of these cameras watching our every move, and our neighbours being encouraged to tittle tattle on us, reminds me of communist East Berlin where one was encouraged to tell on your neighbour and shoot him if he tried to escape to the west, in exchange for a lavish meal on 'unten der Linden' or be moved up the queue for a small motor car. And now we have Microsoft :nonofinger::nonofinger:
                  It most certainly is not the society today that I was born into or expect from the great 'British Constitution' with its so called recognised freedoms :)
                   
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                    Good evening @PeterS and @whis4ey my good friends I agree totally with you both,all woo is doing is making the best of a bad job,yes at times windows 10 is like a boil on my backside but I will master it,as we all know serving two master's is the same as wearing two hats it can't be done;)I was born free on a road somewhere and I am still free,freedom has nothing to do with being in control of a machine,I have a choice I could revert back to Windows 8.1 or I could switch the machine off but I just love a challenge;) if you two would like to come to lunch with Woo I will pay and you have my word as an Owl that it won't cost you a penny "it will be a free lunch":heehee:

                    I had a meal once under a linden tree and very nice it was to:smile:
                     
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                      Yep, angling downwards into your wallet!!:heehee: I never pick up the phone, pete, until I recognise the voice on the answerphone and that avoids the cold calls.:wallbanging::snork:
                       
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                      @whis4ey you had better destroy and I mean destroy every piece of technological equipment you have in your home. Did you know that even your printer stores a lot of your personal information from everything you run through it. Just a few days ago I took a hammer to two old mobile phones to prevent this and when my present aging computer gives up on me it will get the same treatment. :)

                      Sorry to hear that @PeterS but why didn't you back up on an external drive before changing over?

                      I agree with you but what you are sitting in front of on your computer is not British whis4ey, it's American, which in a way makes the matter worse. :doh: It's not the British that know everything about us but our friends across the water!
                       
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                        I have a phone that's called 'Call Guardian' (or something like that :noidea:). If the caller is not already in my directory it intercepts the call without it ringing. It then asks the caller for their name. If they give a name CG then calls me and gives me their name and asks whether I want to accept the call. I can 'accept' once, accept all the time (in which case it puts the number into my directory, send it to answerphone or bar it. If I tell the phone to bar it, the phone then tells them they are barred :heehee:
                         
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                          My printer is too old to have that facility :old: :snork:
                           
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