So what do we think of the new Labour party leader??

It is rumoured, Woo, that her Majesty has been known to Air Guitar to the National Anthem while Phil wears his leathers and Head Bangs on the balcony.

 

I doubt if he's been to the Chelsea Flower Show, PP, which is a shame because I'm sure he would enjoy it. Fashion interest in what he wears etc is irrelevant

To be honest, I don't think him doing either in the future will matter You can't change your views regarding how you feel about matters just to please people, and so any back down by him in singing the National Anthem, etc, would be merely lip service and a deceit to his personal beliefs and everyone would know it.

I think you're being a bit optimistic regarding the Media. They will praise and give a measured overview of any celebrity one minute and the next will pull them to the ground on the slightest whim or rumour.

The day you or I, Scrungee, start thinking like that is the day we need to visit the Vet's and take a shilling.

He's not the only Labour MP with strong views and there are many good MP's out there who would make great changes in present policies. But you have to remember that his participation and nomination in the Leadership competition was not done with any thought of the MP's who nominated him that he had any realistic chance of winning.
So he wasn't brought to the fore by a national wave of enthusiasm believing him to be the Messiah of Change in Politics Nor was he voted in by the majority of the General Public. The precise number of votes for Corbyn was 215,417 against the number of UK population of around 66 million. So there's been no great wave of Labour voters putting Corbyn on their shoulders to raise him to power, only a small percentage of politically involved Labour extremists [some only having days in the party having paid their £3, with that casting suspicion on the integrity of their votes]. I've been a long standing Labour voter, voting at every election, but should Corbyn still be Labour Party Leader I, and I suspect many millions like me, will not vote Labour.

 

Aye, Freddy, and looking back on my Life and the innumerable mistakes I have made, I wish I was clever too

 

No, RB, it doesn't. What I'm trying to do is get past your idealistic enthusiasm [nothing wrong with that!] and get you to put some realistic perspective in your assessment of Corbyn's "feat".
The vast majority of the Labour voting public did not take part in the vote.....that's the point I'm trying to make. So only a tiny percentage of Labour voters, and the majority of those being far to the Left, put him where he is now. If the situation had been that all of the Labour voting public had taken part in the vote for the Labour leadership then Jeremy Corbyn name, beliefs and policies would been dismissed. It reminds me of many Union strike votes, and I've seen and taken part in a few of those, where a tiny minority made lot of noise, the majority stood back, and when the vote came only the minority voted and the strikes were on, with the majority not voting for various reasons.

 

My view of Corbyn is not from "a want to downplay it" but from a want to put things in perspective.

In reality, RB, the "many" is a few when in reality you realise just how many long standing Labour Voters disagree with him and feel uncomfortable about him being Leader of their Party.

More like:

“If it’s important you’ll find a way. If it’s not, you’ll find an excuse.”

 

There are very few long standing Labour Party voters who, having seen Blair for what he is, favour him in any way. Nor, do they like the style of the other leading MP's who took part in the leadership race, as they believe them to be out of touch with the views and wants of the majority of Labour voters. And therein lies the present problem.....The Labour Party is in a downward slide, has lost it's way, the leaders are unconvincing and lost touch with what Labour is about....which, as History has shown, is when the extremists come into power.
When you have Labour Leaders being asked a direct question, speaking a thousand words and not actually having said anything while not answering the question then they're automatically compared to the Tories who are past masters in that art, and that has been happening for too long to reprieve what was the contenders for Leadership.
I think it was a continuing evolution of the vices of "New Labour" where Labour Party Leaders began to think that when putting forward policies, speaking to the Public and the Media, that "Politic Speak" [uttering thousands of words and actually saying nothing] was the way to go. So increasing we have become disillusioned with them, leading to the disastrous last General Election where we distrusted and disliked the Labour Leaders as much as we did the Tories. Hence, like it or not, we had an unelectable set of Leaders and weak, vague, policies unable to understand or believe that they were the problem not the Tories. Now, to make things worse, we have a far left Leader not voted in by the vast majority, with policies not liked by the vast majority of Labour voters, which means if he is still the Leader of the Labour Party in 2020, [at the age of 71], that is a cocktail as unelectable as in the last General Election.

But that's where you seem to be saying/thinking that such policies are only the domain of the far Left!! All the UK nation want that, the Labour Party [mid right, centre, far Left], the Social Democrats, most of the Tories, and all the other parties want that!!! So it's not something new and not just belonging to Corbyn and co.