The refugee crisis

Exactly. The ability of the world to send immigrants to the west outstrips our ability to absorb them by tens of millions.

 

Did the EU actually have an immigrant policy?

They, the immigrants/refugees/ migrants, dont want to go to some countries, they all seem to have their targets for one reason or another.
Which is another reason why they cant be classed as refugees, in my book.

If they were just seeking safety from war they would accept any country that would take them in, but if the EU do sort something out, and some get sent to places they dont want to go I'm sure we will see demonstrations and riots.
Then the court of human rights will get involved

God knows if it will ever get sorted.

 

@rosebay as you have so much compassion for homeless people, how many refugees are you actually going to share your home with please? .....and may I ask you, why you think we should let all these refugees/immigrants into our country BEFORE we give the homeless mental health care, a roof over their heads, the drug addicts the support to be clean & the education/training to get a job & stop stealing? The alcoholics the support they need to stop drinking? THESE people are our people who need help & support but we as a country are failing them....but we can help 20,000 + refugees! It makes no sense to me at all.

 

Go Beckie

I've been trying to think how to put what you have so eloquently put.

However, I do feel a bit of
coming on.

Remind me never to get on the wrong side of you

 

No wonder it makes no sense at all to you....because you read erroneously between the lines (i.e. what I have NOT said) and jumped to a wrong conclusion! If you read a previous post of mine, you will see that I endorse the establishment of refugee camps (on the previous page # 68)

Beckie...I am appalled to be so poorly misunderstood!

Exactly where did I ever say that we should let all these refugees/immigrants into our country BEFORE we give the homeless a roof over their heads?????

I was not talking about the homeless in the UK in terms of who deserves priority treatment or shelter. Also, by housing a homeless person, I trust that you realise you cannot enforce treatment for their condition since this requires their permission. I accept that I probably didn't explain myself well. I was addressing Jack's surprise that people were more willing to house the refugees than the homeless. My post attempted to explain why this might be i.e. what their thinking/perception was, that's all. I was trying to shed light on the matter rather than be seen to take sides.

I don't know what the solution to the refugees problem is which is why I have never said we should take them here. Just because I sympathise with their suffering does not automatically mean I am saying we should open our doors here.

(Incidentally, I am not in a position to house anyone here in my small one bedroom flat. Apart from the lack of physical space, my mother is dying and I am not emotionally equipped for such a situation).

I suggest you understand my stance a bit better before launching such a misguided and harsh attack.

Thank you.

 

@rosebay .
I'm going to appologise BECAUSE I don't want any hard feeling on here, I enjoy the forum very much & there are a lot of people on here whom I like a lot.
I too have felt very much under attack from you rosebay & might I add not only on this thread! Prehaps it would be better if we appologised to each other & moved on?

 

I would suggest that there is a difference between criticising your view - and attacking you as you clearly have done with myself. It is largely a question of degree although I concede it involves perception also. I did not misunderstand you or misrepresent you here either in so doing, as you have done with myself - causing me considerable distress. I am up for being held accountable for what I say but I take exception to being painted as something I am not and then dissed! Of course people agreed with that post of yours but it was never my view in the first place.

So, just to clarify, I was not talking about the homeless in the UK in terms of who deserves priority treatment or shelter. Also, by housing a homeless person, I trust that you realise you cannot enforce treatment for their condition since this requires their permission. I accept that I probably didn't explain myself well. I was addressing Jack's surprise that people were more willing to house the refugees than the homeless. My post attempted to explain why this might be i.e. what their thinking/perception was, that's all. I was trying to shed light on the matter rather than be seen to take sides.

If I caused you upset (which is never my intention) then I apologise.
A forum is about sharing and debating differing points of view though.

I largely agree with shiney's well balanced post above.

I am now discontinuing watching this thread.

 

It seems fairly clear to me - forget about the economy, whether we can afford it, the strain on housing/Council/NHS services or whatever - these people are fleeing for their lives. We should take in as many as we can and more - there's nothing more important than life.

History will look back on how the UK just sat there and did very little beyond throwing money at it, whilst Germany came forward. How things have changed.

 

And so say all of us.