Peas and Beans

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  1. leonora

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    Had no luck at all with peas and Beans this year..[emoji26] [emoji271] .Who can suggest why?

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    Peas were good for me, however my Runners have been very poor, apart from the initial flush I've only had a few and they have all been tough and stringy. I've been shelling them and eating the beans inside like Broad beans. I put it down to lack of sunshine.
     
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      My peas were good, but my runners weren't as good as previous years, as JWK has already rightly said I also think it was down to the weather, I planted seeds but only a few germinated, so I ended up buying plants, they were really slow to get going.
      Did you dig some horse muck into the ground before you planted your runners @leonora? They are quite hungry plants. :)
       
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        @shiney, you're the Runner Bean King :) how have yours been this year?
         
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          I don't grow peas now but my beans usually give a good yield and this year was no exception. Following advice on here about Wilko's seeds I chose a variety that I have never grown before, Wilko's Blue Lake and after this years results I will be growing them again next year.
          To answer your question, did you plant in a well prepared bed? I use the same bed every year for beans and prepare the soil the previous autumn by digging trenches 12" deep and putting in a 4" layer of well rotted manure or compost. Beans like a sunny, free draining spot so do not make your bed in a shaded area if at all possible.
          Hope that this helps.
           
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            After the rabbits having eaten 91 plants at the beginning of the season :mad: (got my own back with rabbit pie :heehee:) they also got off to a slower start than usual.

            Mid season they really got into their stride but for nowhere near as long as they normally do. I picked 5lb yesterday but don't expect much more to come.

            Some of the plants were finished about two or three weeks ago and a few are still going.

            Flavour was good but quality was poorer than we usually get.

            French beans were much worse than last year and I've just picked a paltry amount as the last pick.

            I've been growing our beans in the same spot for over 40 years and it's always well manured each year. The colder weather early on in the year didn't help and that was followed by nearly two months of drought.
             
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              Peas and French Beans produced good crops.

              Polestar runner beans which I've had good crops from for the last 25 years or so were a failure yet again, and that was using fresh bought seed, so not bothering with them again. White Lady produced masses of tender beans but suddenly finished about a fortnight ago. Jescot-long-uns grown for long runner beans produced masses of large, tender (if eaten young, but that can be 18"long) beans and would still be cropping if I hadn't let selected (longest)beans go to seed on most plants to sow next year. Will also still keep sowing White Lady.
               
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                We'll need ESP in order to answer the question as to why since there is not enough information given by the OP.

                However, it's probably due to a combination of factors like variety, weather, growing environment and timing.


                I don't grow peas but my own broad beans and runner beans have been fantastic this year.


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                Six plants produced a little over three quarters of a Morrisons plastic bag's worth of pods.



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                Four plants produced about one and a half bag's worth, and is on its second flush of blooms.
                 
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                  Hi misterQ,

                  That's a very good result. :blue thumb: You have an advantage over a lot of us with the weather we've had this year, as your veg is grown in a well sheltered area.

                  I can only compare my results this year with previous years. I can't compare yields with others as I grow a lot more than most people. Even for this bad year I was picking at least 50lb of beans a week at the height of the season (I sell them for the charity we support).

                  We usually have our season cut short around this time of year because the winds tend to cause them to think that winter has arrived. Our vegetable area backs onto fields and, after the fields have been harvested the winds seem to blast across. The bean plants nearer the field have finished already and the others are struggling.
                   
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                    I'd still be picking Jescots like these ones still of eating size, but the beans on every plant are all being left to go to seed. Next year I'll put some more in and have a dedicated row just for eating.

                    The only trouble is that more beans at the end of season would mean a massive glut at peak season. I've never tried successional sowing of Runners before to try and get a second, later sowing with peak cropping towards the season's end.

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                    I get the same problem, but got a load of cheap debris netting a while ago and was thinking of trying a wind break next year.
                     
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                      I tried Jescot, back in the old days :old:, and found them a bit on the tough side. They were excellent for the show bench.

                      I never bother to save seeds any more as I can buy F1's so cheaply - worked out about 1p per bean. I can sell the veg for more than I can save keeping them for seeds! :noidea:
                       
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                      Bridgwater beans did well till the wind had em over :doh: DSCN1899.JPG
                       
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                        I've found that being a very big bean (growing up to 24"), they can be picked very young and still be much bigger and more tender than mature standard runners.
                         
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                        Got a frezzer full of runner beans, that should last the winter, still picking enough for two meals every day, but one thing i did do this year, was to well water them, soak (flood) them
                         
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                          I don't freeze them any more because I can sell all I can grow. :blue thumb: £1 per lb.

                          Between the two of us we eat over 1lb at a meal. I think we may last out until the end of the month.
                           
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