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    To be honest, Apple Blossom, I can't tell the difference between the difference between the Armandii varieties:scratch::doh::snork:, even though I have C.Apple Blossom winding it's way through some of my Shrubs. But having said that it's evergreen and like my Armandiii has flowered several times this year.
     
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      That's really interesting as I have another project on the horizon... probably spring time and I am looking for a really good climber. Funny you should say that but all my clematis are in flower at the moment and like you they have flowered in the spring, summer and now winter... although still very mild at the moment.

      Is the picture you have inserted Appleblossom? as that would be just great for what I am thinking of doing
       
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        I've just had a quick look on the internetthingy and it looks lovely and vigorous in growth which is just what I need, love the pinky colour. Can you grow two different clematis together to give contrasting colour?
         
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          You can grow 2 clematis together, but if you grow C Appleblossom you couldnt plant with it a clematis that needed pruning, you would possibly have to go for one one the early flowering types, Alpina, Macropetala these type flower twice.
          If you would like something different have a look for Clematis otophora its a yellow flowered species clematis from China, if think it would look great with the paler Appleblossom
           
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            But wouldn't Apple Blossom swamp Macropetala Ian? I have 'Wesselton' and it only grows to about 8ft.
             
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              Ive got Apple Blossom growing with Macropetala Lagoon, with no problem the evergreen hides the bare stems at this time of year.
               
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                Hi Apple Blossom, yes, that is an image of C.Apple Blossom.

                Hi Ian, I don't think that's necessarily true, because it would depend on what Apple Blossom has in mind with her project.

                I have over 30 clematis, in my collection of around 130, of different varieties wending their way through shrubs and trees and their location makes pruning either difficult or impossible and, in fact, they look better for being allowed to wander freely. I do agree if the Clematis are in a formal Statement position then, obviously, they will require pruning to keep them in that configuration. However, if Apple Blossom's project involves an informal theme then she could quite happily let two Clematis, [one evergreen and the other deciduous] grow together as classical pruning rules can be ignored as both wouldn't need pruning except for the odd tidying up and training purposes. I also have a trellis entrance to the garden:

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                There are, now, around 25 to 30 Clematis of differing Groups and varieties, planted shoulder to shoulder, on both sides of the entrance making around 50 to 60 altogether. Because I can't tell which stems on the Entrance belongs to which Group I prune them altogether and have never had any trouble with each group flowering when they should.:dunno::coffee::snork:
                 
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                  I only said that has I was told that by the late Vince Denny, when I went to his house and collected some rare Antragene clematis from him he'd raised from seed.
                   
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                    But what you say, Ian, is correct about pruning if you're doing formal pruning of Clematis:thumbsup::snork: What I was pointing out is that you and I don't know exactly what Apple Blossom's project entails so in fact both schools of thought and practice might apply.:dunno::heehee:
                    You lucky man!! Vince was someone who knew their stuff and was passionate about Clematis:love30:. Did you know they named a Clematis after him??

                    • Variety or Cultivar: 'Vince Denny' _ 'Vince Denny' is a deciduous, perennial climber with pinnate, dark green leaves and, from midsummer to early autumn, small, bell-shaped, reddish-brown flowers with yellow petal margins.


                      Clematis 'Vince Denny' is: Deciduous

                      Flower: Reddish-brown in Summer; Reddish-brown in Autumn

                      Foliage: Dark-green in Spring; Dark-green in Summer; Dark-green in Autumn

                      Habit: Climbing

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                      I totally agree, but I have made the mistake in the past of mixing different pruning groups together and ended up with no flowers on my early flowering ones.
                      Yes thats one in my collection, I would recomend it to anyone can be a bit of a thug, I have some fresh seed if anyone is interested in trying some
                       
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                        Sorry @ARMANDII and everyone I've been very busy in the garden with my current project... not sure what I am doing however... it will either work or I will have a lot of moving around to do next year when it all comes together and I can see what is doing what :)

                        Project Spring... I want to put up a very large trellis as a screen back ground of colour and I thought that a variety of seasonal Clematis would provide this. The garden is very green at the moment and I want to bring character and colour in so that the seasons show themselves in colour and variety. I have honeysuckle and climbing roses in other areas and just want this area to be different.

                        This is what it looked like during the summer all taken out including the tree
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                        The area was fully shaded by trees and shrubs where as now it may be just partly shaded and will probably only get full sun in the morning.

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                        What I want to do is put a trellis up something like this....

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                          Good evening @ARMANDII the burgundy clematis in the above picture is just stunning and the arch entrance you have looks wonderful. I bet you get colour all through the year.

                          I think the trellis will make it more formal but you have given me some really good ideas for other areas...:)
                           
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                          Yes, that was my thought, Apple Blossom, when I saw your proposed trellis. I take it you'll be putting a seat or Abour of some sort in the centre of the semi enclosure?
                          I would say Ian's recommendation of pruning and not using an evergreen clematis would be the best for something like that. If you do use Clematis for clothing the trellis then I would put them at least 4 to 6 feet apart and permanently label which group they are in. Obviously, getting Clematis in the same group would be easier but that wouldn't give you Spring, Summer, and Autumn flowering.

                          I do have an Abour on the East side of the garden so I can watch the Sun go down in the West and that has a climbing rose on each side with 3 clematis and 3 Honeysuckles on both of the sides. My point being is that you could mix your trellis with a climbing/rambling rose, Clematis and/or Honeysuckle.
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                          Another successful, to me, experiment was the trellis fencing which runs alongside my Wildlife pond. That has an easy to maintain Jasmine hedge in which several Clematis of different groups wend their way. I just cut back the hedge in the Spring and the Jasmine and Clematis seem to love it and flower very well, with the Jasmine giving of their heavenly scent as a bonus.
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                            Your garden looks full and colourful.....very lovely :imphrt:

                            I think I need to do some homework as I don't understand the difference between a pruning clematis and an evergreen which is worrying as I already have a number of them dotted here and there :sad: and they are all in flower at the moment which they shouldn't be as I think they are spring and summer varieties and now I'm a little concerned that I need to do something with them :thud:

                            One of your suggestions is what I have already done by the side of the house, I put Jasmin and a clematis on a trellis that I inherited. It was originally covered in hops and quiet an eye saw. Its so lovely having a glass of wine in the evening when the Jasmin is out the aroma is just wonderful :spinning: and the leaf colour at the moment is just lovely.

                            I like your idea of a seat in the middle :) and will see if it fits in with my other ideas :heehee:
                             
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                              There is a simple rhyme 'If it flowers before June, do not prune'
                               
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