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  1. CanadianLori

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    Back to driving my little mustang and get so frustrated with drivers of high end vehicles who cannot seem to drive at least the speed limit. Why do they buy high performance cars and then drive so slowly? :gaah:
     
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      How about, "hey there Lori, aren't you going to clean the rest?" Or "is that a crack in your glass or just a bit of leftover pixie dust"?
       
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        They can afford the car but not the petrol
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        You can afford anything as long you keep up the payments :whistle::mute:
         
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          Glass cleaner that is really just a glass greaser, blue film spreader,
           
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          @redstar when I click on that link it freezes my Internet Explorer. Tried it three times! :scratch:
           
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          It's a 10 minute video showing that he U.S. didn't make the top 25 list of killing countries. Most were either South American, Carribbean or African nations. Informative but a full 10 minutes - would have preferred a quick list...
           
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          I wonder what the list would look like if poor countries and countries without democracy or an effective police force were excluded. Ie, if only so called developed nations were counted.
           
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            And all that @clueless1 is subjective. How much developed? what is an effective police force? What is not poor? What is enough education? What is enough communication? What is enough medical intervention?

            Humans possess an evil in them, if they were really innately good they would do good things, they could self govern to do positive things, they do not that is the question of why?

            The perfect example is abuse of animals. No animal does evil toward a human, yet a human will hurt, mutilate an animal in sick ways. WHY? Humans will hurt babies, toddlers, Why?
             
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              Sorry don't know what to do about that. try again.
               
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              I kept trying but with the same result. Obviously there is something on that site that my computer doesn't like.

              So, I haven't seen that video but I do study statistic. Not many people would own up to that vice! :rolleyespink:

              Unfortunately, those type of lists don't take into account the difference between democratic and peaceful countries, or war torn countries or those with internecene strife. If they removed those countries then the list would be more representative of the type of country that GC members do, or would wish to, live in.

              Of the three countries represented here, the latest figures for murders are:

              United States 15,630 Population 319m = 4.9 per 100,000

              Canada 516 Population 36m = 1.4 per 100,000

              U.K. 534 Population 64m = 0.83 per 100,000

              Of course, if you want to skew the figures you could take into account places like the British island of Montserrat. Their murder rate per 100,000 in any particular year is almost 20 but the highest annual rate is 1 every other year!

              Other so called democracies such as Brazil and Mexico have a much higher rate and all of Central America and a large part of the Caribbean have very high rates. South America, in general, is not as bad as Central America. Africa is not even worth looking at!

              This is an interesting site. It lists the mortality rates in the U.S. broken down into causes. Over 500 people have died from falling out of bed, 5573 deaths caused by texting whilst driving :rolleyespink: (half the rate of those murdered by guns) and medical errors are working their way up to 200,000 :yikes:

              The numbers clock up whilst you are watching them.

              http://www.romans322.com/daily-death-rate-statistics.php
               
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              Murders most recent data I can find.

              UK 653 probably by getting bashed with a stale figgy pud,:heehee:
              Canada 505 probably strangled with a long touque :heehee:
              U.S. 12,253......:dunno:
               
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              My figures are current for the U.S. (just gone up another three since the last post!) and the best I can find for this year for the others.
               
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                But surely only percentages are fair and relevant??
                 
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                @redstar , I'm sorry I'm going to have to disagree with you on one point. Humans don't have evil in us. At least not in general terms. If you'd said SOME humans are evil, but my experience, and indeed the evidence all around us, is that most are good. Every country I can think of spends a fair chunk of money on schools and hospitals, to educate the young and health the sick. That wouldn't happen if we were inherently evil. Granted some countries don't spend very much on such things, but they are often countries that can't afford to spend much. In those cases. Often charities, funded by ordinary people often in different countries, do the best they can to improve things for others. That couldn't happen if we were inherently evil. You have expressed a distaste that we all share for people that mistreat kids and animals. A member of a species that is inherently evil would not care.

                I can walk wherever I want without expecting anything bad to happen to me. I couldn't if we were inherently evil.

                More times than I can count, whenever I've had some bad luck, lots of people, including total strangers, have helped me out, either practically or emotionally or sometimes both. Likewise I've helped a stranger many times when I've been under no pressure to do so.

                Everywhere you look, you will find evidence that good people far outnumber bad people.
                 
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