Could this latest move by Denmark only add to migrants travelling to the UK?

This is my last post on this subject. Some of you like and agree with what I have posted, others disagree. But this is an undisputed fact. We, the EU, UK and the US are in the same boat and our boat is taking on water, fast. We have our bilge pumps going full blast and are bailing out water as fast as we can, but, we are not plugging up the hole in the bottom of the boat and the hole gets bigger every day.
This is deja vu all over again. The crusades and all that happened with the Muslims starting about 1100 A.D and lasting a couple of hundred years, and, where the Muslims got as far as Spain and Portugal. They had a Caliphate then and they do now. Reduce the entire known world to Islam or face death. Same as today except the world now is a much smaller space. All major religions are under attack. The Hindus, Jews, Buddhists and Christians alike are all under attack and when you can annihilate several million people in 34 minutes anywhere on the globe the world is a very small place. You folks in Europe and we in the US have enabled what was stopped in Portugal centuries ago. The infiltration and population of an age old enemy in our midst. Their own young men would rather flee their homeland and abet what is happening than to fight for their "supposed" beliefs and their own country. In Texas we would call these people cowards, but are they really cowards or something else entirely? Jihadists perhaps? The Islamic religion is not just a religion. Unlike the Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Christians and others the Islamic religion is not only a religion based on a faith but it is also a political movement and has been since the 900's. This political movement is what has to be stopped and this movement is nothing less than world domination. Does anyone really care what someone else believes as long as it does no harm? Of course we don't, but they sure do. But is that what is happening? No, and that is the problem we all face. These people who profess kindness and mercy and good will? What are they doing to stop this hijacking of their faith by barbarians who burn people alive and cut off their heads with a dull knife. Nothing. They won't even turn in their terrorists neighbors to the authorities. Look what happened in Paris. Look at Dearborn Michigan. Look at what is happening all over the world.
Political Correctness is going to be the death of us all nationally and personally if we live long enough. We have to stop this insanity and if it ruffles a few feathers so be it. These people made their beds, let them sleep in it.

 

Islamic Spain was a multicultural society, Christians and Jews continued to live and study there; at some of the earliest Universities. Arts, science and gardening flourished there.
It was the Christians a few hundred later that threw the Jews out after they had thrown out the Moors..

As for being cowards no. These people are scared and frightened enough to risk a hazardous journey to a strange place where they will not necessarily be welcomed. Hoping to find a place where they can live in peace and safety with their families and bring up there children. I'm not sure I would be brave enough.
A lot of them do not have access to weapons in there home country so staying and fighting a gun toting warrior with your bare hands is not really a viable option.

 

I'd say a coward is someone who allows fear to control them to the extent that common sense and compassion are overruled.

Risking your life to get your family out of a life threatening situation is not cowardice. I'd say turning people away in their hour of desperate need, just because you fear they might, possibly be bad when there is nothing to suggest they are, I'd say that's cowardice.

Of course we need to track and check people. That's not the same as closing the doors, saying 'not my problem' then sleeping soundly at night while many thousands of men, women and kids are suffering in absolutely dire circumstances.

 

Then you would "suppose" wrongly. That is not what I am suggesting at all.
As I cannot vet them all myself, I have to trust to the authorities that be, under the provisions they have available, to do that on our behalf. Mistakes will be made and oversights will occur, but that is a given fact. By that same token, there are a greater number of innocent people fleeing those self same terrorists who, just like you, do not want to be raped, stoned, beheaded. They are desperate to find a place of safety - just as I'm sure you would be in their situation.

The UK is a small place, there have to be limits as to how many could be helped; reasonably and practicably.

No one wants terrorists to infiltrate their country. But then, it isn't just terrorists trying to get in - it is the mass of persecuted who are. That is why there is no easy answer to the situation and why it is the root of all the controversy.

 

We are now having complaints that the hotels where we are temporarily housing refugees, are not good enough. They say the had better conditions in the camps back home.

maybe they will leave, magbe not but I pause to wonder why these particluar people bothered to board the plane :(

been here a few weeks and are expecting big homes instantly ... pretty sorry attitude.....

 

If Donald Trump's incapable of figuring out by himself what's going on, when it's so blatantly obvious to ordinary folks his supporters , perhaps he should reconsider his Presidential aspirations?

 

I kind of Agree with @chuck , The Moslems will eventually take over the world one way or another, and by that I dont mean IS, or any other name you want to give them.

Its about sheer numbers of them, peaceful or whatever, that take religion so seriously, are spreading to every country in the world and making their mark.

Those of us that don't take religion to great lengths and are so accepting of their religion are going to be replaced, might not be for a few years but the writing is on the wall.

As to Trump, and I'm not sure why he keeps getting a mention, as nobody seems to be a supporter, not even Chuck, the last thing he needed is Palin joining in, now he must be totally unelectable.

 

Out of all the conflicts that are going on in the world I think that the biggest one is the conflict that a lot of Muslims are having with the 21st century. They are trying to follow the teachings of a book that tells them how to conduct every aspect of their lives. This may have been okay in the 7th century but a lot has changed during the last 1400 years, particularly here in the west.

I agree with @pete, if the present trend continues then the whole world will eventually be Muslim. I doubt that it will make any difference to me at my age, but I do fear for the future of my grandchildren. I honestly believe that anyone who is not at least slightly Islamophobic need to take their heads out of the sand.

 

Personally I think Chinese will be more use in the future than Arabic.
Also bear in mind that the book that Christians follow is 600 years earlier than the Koran and the book of the Jews a few hundred years earlier than that.

 

All very true, but neither the Bible or the Torah go into such intricate detail as to how the believers should conduct their daily lives. There is also the fact that the vast majority of Christians and Jews completely ignore anything in their own religious teachings if it puts them to any inconvenience. This is in stark contrast to the Muslims.

 

Do you know, other than rumour, heresay, and the occasional televised rantings of a nutter, what Islam actually teaches or what your average modern Muslim believes?

 

School was a long time ago but IIRC there are 600 or so commandments in the Torah. The one that does stick in my mind is the one that says the rapist must marry his victim if she is unmarried (cos clearly that will make everything ok)!

Sort of.
Amongst my Muslim friends I have (slightly generalised);

• first generation immigrants who tend to be very devout.
• second generation who tend to observe the major rules and the ones that suit. On the whole they are not too sure they believe.
• third generation who have largely fallen by the wayside by the time that university is over.

The second and third generations are the reason that Islam will not rule our countries or the world. There is no plot to take over.

Time to move on now.

 

Well it appears the more learned amongst us have taken the high ground.
Which is exactly what happens when it comes to running the country.

Time to move on now.

 

I found reading the Koran a fairly good place to start, but please don't hesitate to just bracket me as an average Daily Mail reader if it makes you feel better.