Climber id

Climber ID please growing well on its support in my front garden

 

Have you posted the wrong picture? That's definately not a clematis!

 

Have you got anymore pics?

 

The picture is the right one, I have clematis below it in the pic ,
I will take some more pics tomorrow I should have kept the label never mind I am sure someone out there can help me ? :thku:

 

The flower has opened today would this be any help to anyone many thanks

 

Nathan - are you sure this is a climber, rather than a tall plant that you have tied in.

It is reminiscent of Nicandra ( an annual, which can grow up to 5 or even 8 feet). It looks a bit like this picture of Nicandra from the web.



But I am not sure that it is - my flowers looks different. I think yours has 6 fused petals with points - but mine has only five and no points

A picture from a distance would be interesting. Nicandra has a very open structure.

 

Thank you Peters I will put another pic of the plant I do think it was climber as I have put a frame for it to grow up with my Clematis and Chilean Glory Vine





Peter the plants all around are my Dahlias ? :thku:

 

It looks like a Datura to me, which is not a climbing plant.

 

It grows as a weed on my allotment, I think its datura "La Fleur Lilac"

 

Nathan, your Dahlias are looking terrific. It should be a good year for them, they love water.

I am sure Victoria and Pete are right. Its not a climber as such, but it does need support. I just grow them tied to a cane.

Have a look at this thread http://www.gardenerscorner.co.uk/forum/showthread.php/brugmansia-2-19048p35.html . It deals with both Brugmansias and Daturas which are very closely related and members of the Potatoe family, along with Nicandra and Petunias. Walnut 's your man!

 

Nathan Victoria and Pete are correct Datura" La Fleur Lilac" it's not a climber but as Peter says sometimes needs support,rub the foliage it has a very distinct scent,the seed pods will develope soon and you will see why they are sometimes called "thorn apples".

 

Walnut, if you leave the seed pods to develop, does it reduce the ability to flower. ie is it essential to deadhead?

I have some pods developing now and they look attractive in their own right, but I don't want to prejudice the flowering.

 

I find the flowers get smaller Peter, if thats any help.

So I cut them off for a while but let them form later for seeding next year.

 

Thanks Pete. Actually I have quite a few growing, so will experiment. One of my (many) weaknesses is that I like to grow quite a few seedlings of special things, just in case they don't survive. Then I hate to get rid of the mature plants. So I have at least half a dozen Datura and Brugmansia. I also have a dozen Nicandra, which is new to me and which I like. Not to mention two dozen Echium etc...... and then there are the Salvias :D

 

Thanks to you all, When more of the flowers develop I will put in some pics :thku: