Poorly Rose

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  1. wiseowl

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    Hi Freddy If It was my Rose I would tend to leave it where it is as I can see some new shoots appearing,just maybe cover the Bud union over with some soil and Mulch,Keep it well watered But not over the Leaves ,just round the base, What ever you do Freddy don,t ever firm It In by treading round the base of a rose use your Hand to do that,Good luck:thumb::)
     
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    Thanks WOO, sounds like good advice, as always :thumb: :)
     
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    Freddy, remember that die back of a newly planted rose could be for a host of reasons, although IMO most likely root damadge. The roots could even have been damadged at the nursery or garden centre before you bought it plus a host of other reasons.

    I would definately leave it be for now other than cutting off the dead as youve done.

    As a general tip with roses in the first year I often will pot them in a 20 litre pot with 50% garden soil, 50% no3 to let them and in particular the roots establish then transplant into the border the following year in Feb, using a seperate pot as a template for the hole so as to avoid root disturbance..

    Woo, what is the purpose of the brown paper bag? I guess to stimulate growth?
     
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    Hi Paul Good guess you got It in one, that's the end result,I water round the Base with warm water The bag keeps the Moisture In stops It drying out,Its called (Sweating) not used much now:)
    Place the bag upside down over the plant. Cut two slits in the top and anchor the bottom with soil. After growth starts, the bag can be removed slowly, first by increasing the size of the slits and then taking the bag off all together. Sweating is only done with newly planted bare-root roses. It is not done each spring. Don't use plastic bags for sweating. Heat buildup can cause injury or even death of the rose plant.
     
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    Thanks Woo, its a new one to me never heard of it before!!!
     
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    "Freddy, remember that die back of a newly planted rose could be for a host of reasons, although IMO most likely root damadge" Yes Paul, I think you're right
     
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    :thmb: Thanks for all your work on this Woo.. I hope your rose picks up now freddy as well as yours Lollipop & Woo as well..

    :flag: Well I have to say I haven't moved mine & I have spotted some new growth on it that looks healthy now so fingers crossed we are OK... :wink:
     
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    [align=center]Email from the Royal National Rose Society

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    Hello Woo
    Iâ??ve just had a word with our Head Gardener and he thinks that there is something in the soil that is inhibiting the growth â?? ( its as if as the roots of the plant have reached a certain spot in the ground and as it tries to make new growth on the plant it dies back).
    It may be that you have an infestation of ants â?? if you have a root around (sorry no pun intended) with a fork to see and then give the ground a dose of Armillatox that would probably help.

    Regards

    Anna Magowan
     
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    :wink: Well I shall have a little gentle dig around & see... He is obviously a man who thinks like me.. I am a long standing fan of Armillatox.. I do give a drench of it in the Autumn for the black spot so another dose on the ground probably won't hurt..

    Thanks Woo..:thmb:
     
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    Hi WOO. Sorry, but I seem to have missed your previous posting until now, so I too will have a little look around. As an update, it SEEMS to be picking up a bit. There is one healthy looking shoot. WOO, if it remains like this (only one shoot), what should I do ? Cheers...freddy.
     
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    Hi Freddy give It every chance and then some more:) But if its looks Terminal We will think again,there,s alway another route to take as long as the Rose gives us the Time:thumb::)
     
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    Hi again. Well, the said shoot seems like it's dying too :( Nothing else showing either
     
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    Hi Freddy Dig it up and lets have a look at the Roots ,Prune it right down ,scrape the stems and lets see what we have got to go on with :)
     
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    Hi there WOO. I reckon it's a dead-un :( I've scraped back some of the stem (roughly where my thumb is) and it's brown.
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    The thing that strikes me is that there are hardly any roots, and it came out real easy. I'm now wondering if it was a 'proper' plant in the first place !
    Cheers...freddy.
     
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    Hi Freddy Looks unwell mate,I,ll tell you what ,Cut an inch off the tip of each root now to stand any chance the inside of the roots need to be white :) But only if you want to,If they are white then Lets put it in a Pot,with some John Innes no 3,"no water" we want to dry it out,A rose will still grow even if the canes are only an inch in Height:)
     
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