Urgent advice needed re soft water please

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  1. Granny Rose

    Granny Rose Apprentice Gardener

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    Gosh, I'm more confused than ever now. Thank you everyone for your replies. It is going to be a block salt system (Harvey's, if by chance anyone's ever used them) The drinking water will be filtered seperately so I assume that will take care of undesirables? I think we shall have to get a new external tap fitted from the mains - our pipework is complicated, don't know why.
     
  2. MartinHp71

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    Is this the supplier telling you the pipework is complicated and potentially charging you more money ?:skp::cnfs:
     
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    :wink: Granny it is quite easy... Just make sure your outside tap & drinking water tap are both on your mains in pipe or near it & before where the softner machine is plumbed in... It is simple to do & do not let them try & tell you different..... :wink:
     
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    Although if the water comes in to one side of the house, where the water softener is, and the drinking water and outside tap are on the other side / miles away ... then some faffing is required :(
     
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    I'm still confused as to why anybody would want a water softener??

    I'm probably a dinosaur, but what does it do, and how does it make things better?

    Surely the calcium in the water is good for us.

    I'm not totally sure but I think most of the water that we get comes from chalk boreholes in the North Downs, and apart from a bit of scale in the kettle I've not had any problems.

    If your not softening your drinking water you will still get scale in the kettle I guess, so what is the point of a water softener?
     
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    :thumb: For me it is mainly.. To keep ones hot water & central heating from clogging up completely so quickly over the years with sludge.. Obviously you live in a nice water area Pete, but over this part of the country our water is very very hard.. Completely calcified my old heating boiler jacket in 16yrs... Had to have a brand new boiler & some pipework near to it renewed.... Kettles only lasted a couple of years..

    Not had any problems since the revere osmosis system put in.. :yho:
     
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    The water here is very hard Marley.

    I guess its to do with how you get you hot water then, I have a normal indirect system where the same water goes through the boiler and the rads all the time, it only contains so much chalk, and a small amount at that, once its come out, it only tops up occasionally.
    Not furred up in 25yrs.

    You can descale a kettle in a few minutes, just turn it on with no water in it. lol
    Seriously, its not that difficult
     
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    Having moved to the south coast from Scotland, I can well understand why you are having a water softener installed. Lime-scale can clog up pipes and even stop any water getting though. Our son - in 15-yr-old house in Cambridgeshre - only found there was a problem when hot water taps didn't seem to work, so it's important to deal with that before a problem occurs.

    We have no water-softening installed so far, but our neighbours have, and it doesn't cover the outside tap which still comes directly from the mains. (This they also use for filling bottles for drinking water.)

    Do you have any water butts though? You may not have a great deal of rain in Canterbury, but it's amazing how much water can be collected from a roof after a rain shower. We have one here, and are considering putting gutters round the back and far away side of the summerhouse to collect more there. We seldom have to use mains water for the garden.
     
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    :dh::wink: Pete I know all about descaling kettles mate... :hehe: I used to have to do it so often I think that is why they died so quickly.... It isn't just me, it happens to just about everyone on this side of the village... Because it is the old part of the village our water is actually quite a local supply as we are on the edge of the Cotswold watershed from a very old underground reservoir....The calcium build up here is incredible... My friend 2 miles away on the new side of the village whose water comes from Wales does not have the same problem... :dh: Mad or what..!! :D
     
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    Your not keeping up with the Dai Jones then!
     
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    :rotfl::rotfl: Nope.. :D No, I think I would worry I might start speaking with a funny accent Kristin...!! Sorry Dai if you read this...!!! :rotfl:
     
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    Yes Catherine we do have water butts, but my husband laboriously fixed up an irrigation system for our patio pots & the new border as we're away quite a lot & were sorely testing the good will of our neighbours.

    I am seriously rethinking the whole business now, or at least the salt method. Will research the electronic/reverse osmosis way. Don't think in all honesty we have thought it through thoroughly (!) Thanks to everyone for their input.
     
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    :thumb: Do have a good think Granny & don't rush into it whichever way you go..... :wink:
     
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    Hi, here's good info on how things work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_softening

    In general, calcium is the bad guy, although great for your teeth, it does have a negative impact on things like household appliances. And, although all the detergents do have softening ingredients, in very hard water areas you'll either have to use additional softeners when doing laundry, or replace your washing machine more often.

    Kettles, irons and coffee makers are easy to descale, but the quality of the water also affects the taste of your tea or coffee.

    Softeners, in general, do not make the water salty. "Salty" meaning sodium chloride, table salt. Plantwise, everything should be safe.
     
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