even the IMF are changing there tune Trump wants to trade with us, anything just to get another golf course
It's standing the pace of all the panicking of the different markets projections. Imagine the problems if we had agreed to use the Euro as our Nation's currency.
There won't be any real clarity until the negotiations are completely over, longk, and besides it's Business that's looking for clarity while the Markets might profess to, but in actual real life they make their monies from Speculation and uncertainty betting against or for futures, so clarity and certainty would kill the speculators who daily bet Billions on the markets. True, but Corbyn is supported by the extremists in the Labour Party rather than the actual normal Labour voters who will vote for, or not, Labour than Corbyn. There are a lot of long time Labour voters who will vote elsewhere rather than support Corbyn
Looks like we are going for the best deal we can negotiate . If it has Salmond , Sturgeon and Corbyn foaming at the mouth , this is the best endorsement for your policy you can get
At the end of May's speech she said the MPs would get a vote on any deal, or no deal, the government might get with the EU. Bearing in mind, those MPs that wanted to remain, still seem pretty set on scuppering Brexit, where would it leave her if they voted against, she could of course "do a Cameron" and fade away. But where would that leave us and the country. Surely at that late stage it will be too late to change things, unless of course some serious backsliding was to be allowed to happen. I think giving MPs a vote is pretty dangerous at that point in the proceedings.
Well, @jjordie I'm pretty suspicious of the whole lot of them, at that late stage they will vote how they personally think, by then, what the constituents actually wanted will be forgotten and faded away. I still see some of them pushing for another referendum at some point, they are not going to roll over and play dead, some still seem to have not even taken Brexit on board yet, and think we should leave but at the same time remain part of it all. If that is not pulling the wool over our eyes I dont know what is. Some plonker for the Lib Dems was actually saying this morning that by saying we are prepared to leave the single market was like raising the white flag. I really dont see where these "wets" are coming from.
Not really, if you think about it, pete. For starters, she is under pressure, by all sides, to be as open and transparent as possible without giving away any real details of negotiating leaving. Nearly all of the Conservative MP's are saying they will vote for the triggering of Article 50, as has Corbyn and his motley crew, with the Liberals whinging and blubbering also admitting they will vote to trigger the Article 50. Some of the SNP, but not many, will vote to trigger, as will the Welsh National Assembly.....that's fact. So there will then be the usual harassing, criticisms, back stabbings, whinging, of the reluctant sections of all parties while the negotiations are in process. But, come the time the negotiations are complete, whenever that is, the MP's, of all parties, having voted to trigger Article 50, and already having been informed by the Prime Minister that [a] she will have to leave the Single Market, leave the Custom Union, if not given a reasonable alternative by the EU, [c] has told the MP's and Country that no deal with the EU is better than a bad deal, then the MP's are in a fix, as they agreed to triggering the Article 50 after being told today of the Government's plans. So the best the opponents, in all parties, can do is try to complain the deal is not good enough, which I'm sure they will do, and try to whip up support for their views. That will leave them looking like they're trying to overturn the result of the Referendum at the last moment.........that, to me, is like playing with matches and since most MP's in the opinion of the majority of the British Public, untrustworthy, have the intelligence of a Gnat, [apologies to the Gnats], is a dangerous game. Theresa May has told the British people that "no deal is better than a bad deal", and that should the EU try to take punitive measures for leaving the EU then the results of that could be calamitous for the EU should we reciprocate...........so the MP's know that we know as much as they do and that we've been aware of the negatives, positives and situation. Two years is a long time and a lot of things will happen, so it's going to be like a Shakespeare play with all the drama, betrayals, heros/heroines, villains, lies, and hopefull a Happy Ending for all of us.
Ah yes. That other credible party. 'We promise that no matter what, we won't be raising tuition fees'. 'OK, we're more than tripling tuition fees'.
@ARMANDII It's not the vote to trigger article 50 that bothers me. It's the vote on whatever deal she gets in 2 yrs time. You seem to think MPs have some kind of conscience, most dont, any political proramme you watch will show them saying one thing one day and completely the opposite in a months time. They are politicians for gods sake.
Like you, Freddy, I've been a Life time Labour person, but I cannot vote for Labour while Corbyn and his cronies are in control of the Labour Party holding the defence and security views that they do. I wouldn't vote Liberal to save my Life, UKIP is in too much of a turmoil with a narrow agenda, I don't believe in not voting, so I will probably vote for a Conservative Prime Minister who has acknowledged that she was originally against leaving the EU, and was harassed today by the Media for it, and is now standing firm and making some hard choices/decisions and telling us what and why. I loathed Maggie Thatcher but Theresa May seems to be of a different metal.
