Mumbling On TV - Do You have Trouble With It?

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    The BBC have just shown a report on the news about the growing problem of not being able to hear some of the programmes properly.

    A sound recordist has been doing some tests and found that things are getting worse and has given his reasons for it.

    The conclusion that he has come to is that it is definitely becoming harder to hear some of the programmes. The main reason is because of them trying to make the performance seem more 'normal' and the other reason is unnecessary background music that is played 'for effect'.

    Have you noticed this problem?

    I've been complaining about it for years and have stopped bothering to watch programmes where the voices aren't clear. The background music problem I have, more or less, solved since I bought a Smart TV. On ours there is an adjustment that can be made to reduce background sounds.

    The other problem I have found is that a lot of people tend to talk faster nowadays and it annoys me. They not only talk faster but don't put a pause between sentences.

    Any other dislikes with programmes etc.?
     
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      Yes and don't like it

      I find it hard to listern to females now because they voices have got higher in tone, i'm tone deaf which makes it even harder, but if there is a vechical coming down the road when i'm in the house i hear it no problem but if walking down the road i don't hear it till the last minute
       
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        Everyone is complaining about the mumbling , and the background music /noise drowning out the voices. Some people now view the plays with the subtitles on . All the luvvies at the BBC will say this is the natural acting method , which is extremely hip and with-it . If you complain you are considered to be an uneducated culturally bereft pleb , and you will be ignored darling ! :biggrin:
         
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          But I am! :snorky: Doesn't stop me from not bothering to watch the programmes tht have mumbling or noisy background music. I also have trouble with the higher pitched female voices - especially with American southern states accents. They seem to screech but it's the pitch of the voice. We have a lot of American friends, some of whom are southern states, and the ones not from the south also say they find it awkward. :noidea:
           
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          Well ok. then why are most programs perfectly sounding while some are awful?

          Just heard on radio 5 it is an age thing ,apparently the older we get we lose some higher and lower ranges.
          I have resorted to subtitles on the odd occasion.
          My younger family say could you turn it down a bit............:sad:
           
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          That's correct but not to the extent to which it happens. Even with my tinnitus my hearing (checked each year) is well into the 'Normal' range but I still have trouble with some programmes.

          Boots the chemist have hearing centres in a lot of their stores and they give free hearing tests. I think it's every two years once you have reached 60 (I now get it every year :old: :snork:) but even if you're under that age you can still get a free test.

          As people get older they're more likely to have some hearing loss at either end of the spectrum but, I think, more towards the higher registers. A test is quite simple and only takes 15 minutes.

          The sound engineer that was doing the testing of the TV programmes said that for a lot of programmes (especially dramas) the sounds were indistinct. He said that even when he had the scripts in front of him some of the voices were difficult to follow.

          I think that the directors/producers are trying to claim that they do it that way because they want to make the programmes seem more real. :scratch:
           
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            The speakers that are fitted to modern TV's also do not help - when we had CRT TV's, they often had quite large speakers which also had a lot of cabinet space behind them to give a bit of depth to the sound; more often than not, these speakers also fired forwards, toward the viewer or at least into the room.

            Nowadays, TV's are so thin that the speakers within them are tiny - often only 4 or 5 inches in length, and their width only that of the depth of the TV (an inch or so); to make matters worse, they also fire downwards, so the sound is heading toward the floor before it gets to you.

            Couple all that with the factors noted above about the way people speak etc, and it is no wonder that we struggle to hear sometimes.

            If you do not have any sort of external audio on your TV, I would strongly suggest that you should be looking into something, even if it is just a sound bar. I am more than happy to give advice to one and all if it is needed.
             
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              I know I have a hearing problem, mainly down to loud machinery over the lat 40yrs or so but having said that, even turning the sound up on these programmes in question does not help.
              You still get a blurred mumble, just louder.

              I totally do agree that the programme makers are trying to make the speech more realistic, but for god's sake it's a TV programme and if you cant hear what is being said you just switch it off, which does nobody any good.

              I've got a Bose sound whatsit under my TV, but it makes no difference, if it starts out as a mumble, you just get a magnified mumble.

              I've noticed it happens a lot in films also, often the background noise, not necessarily music, is blotting out the dialogue.
               
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                A cynic (not me :th scifD36: ;)) said that it was also because the big electronic companies wanted people to buy sound bars.
                 
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                  I think it's a bit like a few years ago when they first started using cameras that could follow the "action", they made loads of TV programmes with the camera swaying about all over the place.
                  Seem to remember I turned that stuff off as well, it made some people sea sick I think.
                   
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                    I have had a lot of trouble with muffled sound quality on 4 televisions.
                    As Fat Controller said ,the T/V Casings are thin, they are getting thinner causing the muffled sound, well they do not help the sound with them being so thin causing vibration and distortion.
                    I was given a gift for doing some work for an old neighbour, about 2 years ago, which overcame the muffled sound quality on my main T/V in the living room.
                    The gift was a 5 speaker stereo acoustic solution unit.
                    There are 4 slimline free standing speakers,one in each corner of the room and 1 slim
                    12 inch x 3 inch placed under the T/v unit.

                    The standing speakers are chrome finish, they are 32 inch high with a 12 inch x 3 inch speaker embedded into the half moon stereo speakers.

                    The control unit is 12 inch x 9 inch, this fits under the T/V on a shelf and is hardly noticed,this enables you to control your stereo sounds, with no muffling .

                    It is a great sound system, very, very clear, my wife can hear it with no problem and her hearing is not very good.

                    I do not know how much it cost, as I said it was a gift.

                    The downside, watching a cowboy, Gangster Movie can be quite alarming with bullets swishing past your ears. :yikes:.
                     
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                      It must be down somewhat to the actual recording as the majority of programs are perfectly crisp and clear.
                       
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                      Mmmmm....Nnnnnnnnn Ffffff. Ohhhhhh.


                      That was me mumbling :biggrin:
                       
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                      Well stop it.:biggrin::biggrin:
                       
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                        That was clear enough.
                         
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