Manchester

Yeah!

Erm .... like ... their sisters? Brothers? Mother's? Father's? School mates? Neighbours? Workmates?

Ok, I'm being facetious.

But what you are suggesting isn't a democracy; that is a dictatorship and (the use of the word "deported") suggestive of prejudice As far as I am aware, at this moment in time, the alleged perpetrator was British born so where do you suggest we "deport" him to?
If we fall back on "locking" them up, on what grounds? What s/he "thinks"? Do we now invoke "Thought" Police? I-thought-something-bad-so-hang-me?

I grew up (as did you) under the threat of IRA terrorism. No one knew when, or where, they would strike next. We LIVED it; we got on with our lives!

The IRA were fighting for a cause they believed in.
ISIS are fighting for a cause they believe in.
Both employed terrorist methods of getting their point across.
Both committed acts of atrocity; that *is* the heart of "terrorism"!

Propagating a "them vs us" mentality really (in my opinion) doesn't get to the root of the issue. Innocent people get caught up in being classified as the "them" and there are others who are oh so good at appearing to be one of "us" which empowers them with the knowledge to do the most damage.

These are complex issues, with complex roots seeking complex answers. Nothing is clear cut and there are no clear cut solutions. Ultimately: this is Tribal & Political Warfare

 

Oh well we might as well just roll over and give in then.

It's that kind of thinking that they rely upon, you need to treat them the same as they want to treat us, hard and without any mercy.
Turning the other cheek and getting on with it is what they want you to do.

And as far as I know every attack recently has been by known terrorists, or at least people considered pretty suspicious.

All the good work by the emergency services, (which I agree with), will not stop this kind of thing happening.
Picking up the pieces and saying how we all stand together does not do anything, apart from mask what is really going on.

Personally i'd like to see an armed copper or soldier on every street corner.

 

We deport those that have come here from far away places, those that we bred we intur, just like we did the IRA.
To me this is an act of war, and in such circumstances you take proper action rather than pussy footing around scared to upset muslims.
The fact that the first statements are always, "these are not proper Muslims" bears out that thinking IMO.

If Muslims dont agree with what is going on then let them deal with it?
We are still waiting?......................

 

The guys father has said his son is innocent. Lord knows what carnage he would have caused if he was GUILTY.

 

Which kind of bears out what I'm saying, they knew they were wrong-uns from the start, even the yanks knew about them.
And this little lad was born in Manchester. bless him.

 

On that point, we need to agree to disagree.
To my mind there is a huge difference between "war" and "terrorism". What we are enduring are acts of terrorism. I see a very clear distinction between the two.

There is a clear distinction between ISIS and "Muslims"; neither should be confused. Just as, in the same vein, there was a very clear distinction between "Germans" and Nazis/ Irish and IRA!

By muddling the two ... we simply buy into the terrorist's subterfuge: I am ISIS therefore I am Muslim does NOT equate to: I am Muslim therefore I am ISIS!

Dear Lord! How many of the Muslim community are going about their daily business today and being subjected to who knows what in the aftermath of the Manchester Arena bombing simply because native British people confuse the issue/cannot delineate between the Muslim/ISIS issues?

So many households are in deep shock and empathy with the victims of the latest atrocity (in the name of ISIS) while still making assumptions that it is ONLY British people who fell victim to this latest atrocity. Do we know yet how many Muslim people were harmed/killed?


This attack was sickening - such is the way of terrorism - yet, I do know, from my experiences with Muslim friends, this is not *their* way!


Beware media reports! They are they to inflame opinion, present certain angles and fan flames!

 

At the moment police and bomb squads are investigating 2 suspicious "incidents" in Newport. The city has been brought to a standill.

 

Earlier this week the police arrested a man just near Wigan centre as part of the bombing enquiry. Last night I went out and was going to drive past the Wigan hospital . All the roads were taped off due to a police incident . They had called the bomb squad in to search a flat near the hospital . Residents had been evacuated . Don't know if anything was found . But this is getting very close to home , and we are 20 miles from Manchester centre.

 

Apparently, there are now 8 people in custody re the Manchester bombing, 3 of which are members of the murderers family. In Swansea on Wednesday someone decided it was a good joke to place a fake bomb in the area. Thankfully the cretin who did so, has been caught and is in prison awaiting trial.

 

My son never mentioned that on Skype today! I'll be having words ....