Grenfell Towers

No @fat controller the prefabs are really nice inside, its the older council houses, we started refurding them now no money, so we have to fit cheap bathroom suites and really cheap and nasty kitchens.

Morning @wiseowl, its like banging your head against a brick wall, when I joined the council we had 10 in our office now we are down to 4 and that for all the council housing in Stockport. Everything done on the cheap, I've had a few heated discussions with my manager (total plonker).

Mrs T is being made voluntry redundant from the council in July, cut backs she works with adults with learning difficulties, its all being farmed out to private companies, its a total disgrace these are vulnerable people.

Sorry for going off on one but I think people should know, its every council

 

@Ian Taylor you are so right in what you say because unless people have been in that kind of work environment for a long time and seen the changes they think you are making it all up and if you get the chance to get out then do it as they won't come knocking on your front door when you have had a nervous breakdown due to the stress of the job

Mr Kandy had it at the council offices where he worked and the workforce was reduced so much that he and the ones that were left had to do the work load of those that had left.Problem was all the lazy ones that were left that the council couldn't get rid of just started taking sick leave,even more so when Mr Kandy retired and his boss kept ringing him up several times a week begging him to go back,even on Consultants rates,but Mr Kandy said no as the council didn't give a stuff about us when they gave Mr Kandy a wage cut of quiet a few grand a year and we had to manage on that reduced wage

Sorry to hear that your misses is going to be out of work soon albeit voluntary but if you can manage without her wage,it might turn out to be a blessing in the end

 

@Kandy, Mrs T is going back to work but she doesn't wants to do something completely different.
She's a fully qualified nurse with 2 degrees, I think she would be happy with something 9-5 and no stress.

 

Good Luck to her and hope that finally she has work that she enjoys with not too much stress especially as she has worked so hard to get her qualifications

 

Apparently 250 Grenfell tower residents, will be rehoused in new luxury flats in their area, at the end of next month.

 

This is all very well & good & I agree these people should be rehoused but how will many of these people afford to live in luxury flats?? Surely this will come at a great cost???

What has really got my flipping goat is the simple fact that there are hundreds if not thousands of empty flats in London, many of them new which have never had anyone living in them....they are called 'but to leave' many overseas wealthy business people have bought them as an investment, why can't these poor people live in those? The council know where these properties are & who owns them?

 

There went back and filmed again and still a few days later no glass, if saftey is number one this would have been put right the next day if not earlyer as it was on the news

 

It will be interesting to see the interactions between the rehoused folk and the flat owners which paid between 1.8 - 8.5 million for one of those flats.

 

"The Grenfell Tower blaze started in a Hotpoint fridge freezer and the building's insulation and cladding have failed safety tests, according to investigators.

The insulation was also found to be more flammable than the cladding tiles, police revealed.

They also said the Hotpoint FF175BP [also FF175BG] model had not been subject to any product recall and further tests were being carried out on the fridge.

The Government has ordered an immediate examination by experts of the model involved and Hotpoint said it is working with the authorities in order to assist in the investigation."


We had one of those fridge freezers and it had to be replaced 2 years 8 months ago because it started heating up, 'cooking' the food in the fridge compartment and had got too hot to touch before we noticed and turned it off. It was replaced under warranty with a newer model.

 

Totally agree with you-been in the same situation in both local govt and nhs. It's an absolute disgrace. I've audited building control and planned maintenance works and at the last council i worked for it was an utter joke. I also audited sheltered housing and raised high level recommendations and gave them an awful report because fire safety checks were not taking place-it fell on deaf ears. DISGRACE.

 

In today's "blame culture" there is going to an awful lot to pushing and shoving going on, all trying to say it was not down to them, but down to some other department.

Personally, I'd just blame those that make building Regs, bearing in mind that this system is, and I'm guessing , acceptable and has been for some time, ...up until now.

If it is not considered acceptable, and does not pass building Regs then the question has to be asked who specified this stuff in the first place.

 

So,... is it inflammable or not?

If it is who said it was OK to use as cladding on buildings?

I cant see anyone else responsible other than those that pass build regs.