Any plumbers about or any ideas please?

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    Think its leaking from the overflow pipe?(the white one) and pressure is on 0

    I've knocked the boiler off by the switch seems to have stopped for now.. but I'm going to need to heat the house later when kids get back. TIA
     
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    Hi,

    Am not a plumber, so cannot give authoritative info, but it looks like the condensation drain pipe which should go to an outside drain.

    Possibly that pipe is blocked on the outside wall or if its still windy its being blown back up the pipe ? Can you easily see it on the outside wall ?

    Either way, it should not drip out of that elbow, its probably never been glued, just pushed fitted, so anything affecting the flow though it could cause a build up, which will in turn cause a drip.

    If its anything more than that you need to seek a proper central heating engineer.
     
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      Ah thanks for replying Ricky I can't get at it to check if it is blocked, the pipe is covered down to the drain. Ive just put it back on and doesn't seem to be leaking when hot water is running..just put heating on and there's hell of a noise.
      This is the back wall..

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      Rendering was done just over 2 years ago so it must be a pretty bad leak to stain like that. Boiler was put in new when I moved in near 10 years ago. Think it's time for a new one..?
       
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      I've knocked it off the noise was worrying me
       
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      Hi,

      Agree that staining looks bad, simple plastic plumbing should not leak like that if fitted correctly.

      Also looks like its been running down the back of the air vent, not the best thing.

      Cannot help with the noise, it might be the same problem or something different, you really need an engineer.

      As you have done, would keep it switched off until you have been given the all clear.


      Seems a lot of the combi boilers are only good for about 10 years - though a debatable point.


      Afraid thats where you need to be really careful as there are some real crooks out there, the biggest one I have come across is British Gas who tried to sell my old mother a new boiler because of a slight water leak on a simple gasket they said was no longer available, but the local boiler stockist said I would have to hurry down as they only had a few thousand left in stock !

      Similarly they changed an old neighbours boiler for twice the typical rate eg BG £4,400, independants £2200 - £2500 (some year ago)

      So do ask around family and friends for a good central heating engineer in your area.

      Good luck
       
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        Thanks again. My father is back from work he's coming to have a look. It don't look or sound good at all.. my gut feelings tell me new boiler. I know a good plumber who fitted my kitchen sink and moved a gas pipe when I had the kitchen done.. fingers crossed he's free and needs work!

        Know what you mean about British gas being rogues. I used to have home care about 5 years ago had them to fix my room thermostat and they also told me my boiler was no longer made and parts were rare! Must be some sort of line they're trained to say!
         
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          Old man has been and gone. Ran the boiler on central heating (it's not leaking when you run hot water :scratch:), he doesn't think the pipe is leaking outside just rain, filled the pressure up, put a saucepan underneath and said "knock it off for tonight, call the plumber tomorrow". Ahh :money:

          I did think the plumber who came last time was gas safe as he moved a gas mains pipe.. just looked on that site and he's on there :blue thumb:

          Will update when its fixed..
           
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            The rust running down the outside wall is probably from the screws used to fix the brackets.

            Wish I could help with the boiler but that thing is far too complicated for me, all my boiler has is a gas pipe coming in and two water pipes coming out the top.
            Mine is old, but I think the old ones were much more reliable than the newer ones which seem to be engineered to fail.
             
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              My bro is a plumber and contracts for british gas....do not go with british gas!!! They will charge you double what an independent would. Just make sure they are reputable and Gas Safe registered
               
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                Had to laugh....watched your video and then SuBos face appeared! :lunapic 130165696578242 5:

                God awful noise:lunapic 130165696578242 5:

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                  @Linz, do you have a carbon monoxide detector? Just incase there is a boiler fault.
                   
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                    Haha too good! This was on autoplay after my "aw feck" vid.. proper peed myself laughing!




                    No I don't have carbon monoxide alarm.. I really should, I know. Quite tempted to knock the gas off by the mains now.
                     
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                      Looks to me as thought it is running down the outside of the pipe, and therefore not condensate in my opinion - indeed, I would question whether is even a condensing boiler?

                      The first thing I spot is the pressure gauge - no pressure, so that suggests that it is the closed side that is leaking; I would even go as far as to suggest that the PRV (pressure relief valve, which is designed to pop open and vent water in the event that the pressure goes too high) would be a good starting point. The next suspect would be the expansion vessel - might just need pumping up (literally, they have a balloon inside that is inflated via a schrader valve), but more often than not it will want replacing.

                      Last suspect would be the pump itself - the noise you are hearing could be a symptom of a knackered pump, or it could be that the pump is just struggling because of the lack of pressure.

                      Water leak does NOT mean a gas leak - the two sides are well separated, so there is no need to switch all your gas off; it is sensible to switch the boiler off at the mains though just to be sure.

                      What age, make and model is it? Got the look of a Halstead about it?
                       
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                        PS - my money is on the expansion vessel. About £150-£200 for the part
                         
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