Manure Rotted To Soil. Good For Seeds??

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  1. geeza

    geeza Apprentice Gardener

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    Hi there

    I have located a pile of manure that has been eaten by worms and rotted down for Two years

    It now resembles very very fine soil. Will this be good to start seeds? what other application?? Thanks in advance.

    NB can someone reply ASAP as i intend to get loads of it if its good
     
  2. JWK

    JWK Gardener Staff Member

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    Don't use it for sowing seeds - you would not know how much nutrients are in there (probably too many for seedlings!) - also there may be weed seeds. But it will be very good for improving your soil by mixing into your borders or veg patch or whatever you've got.
     
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    No-far too rich for seeds, it needs to go in the soil, and it is very good indeed for that so fill your boots.
     
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    geeza Apprentice Gardener

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    what is the best mix for seeds ... Thanks in advance
     
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    "I use John Innes seed mixture because being soil based it doesn't dry out so quick and adds a bit of weight to pots so they don't blow over (compared to peat based composts)."

    Me too (Saved me some typing John, thanks!)
     
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    As do I, but I whizz in a bit of vermiculite and always use fungicide to water in to help prevent damping off.
     
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    conflicting oppinions. I did ask on anotehr site too (but awkward loging on so came here) I have just noticed that they are telling me that it should be fine to use as if its 2 years old anything that can do any harm has long been leached away.
    Any ideas????
     
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    JWK Gardener Staff Member

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    I don't see any conflicting opinions on here, in fact for once we are all saying the same thing :thumb:

    If you plant seeds straight into well rotted compost then I know you will be dissapointed with the results compared to a tried and tested mixture like John Innes.

    How many seeds are you intending to grow and what are they? Are you worried about the cost? I grow quite a few plants from seed every year and usually buy only one bag of seed compost - the seeds themselves cost a lot more than the seed compost I use.
     
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    My advice remains the same.

    It isn`t about the compost you have being harmful- it isn`t, it is well rotted and won`t do much harm if at all, BUT it is far too rich for the propagation of seedlings, I can`t put it any clearer-they won`t be feeding from the soil yet-not until they are a good sized plants, as you pot seedlings on they need more and more nutrition as they grow in size and the compost likewise needs to be getting steadily richer and richer.

    A bit like giving a two week old baby a plate full of steak diane-it ain`t gonna work.

    The compost you have described is fantastic stuff for adult plants that will actually use the nutrients in it

    I don`t know which site is giving you this duff advice but let me advise you to stick with us here.
     
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    You'll grow some fine spuds from seed potatoes, but putting germinating seed into raw manure is very risky, they are far too tender. Just not worth the risk.
     
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    I love the baby analogy Claire :)
     
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    :) Yes John, I thought you might-I take it no one here knows you`re a new Grandad?:)


    They do now.
     
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    So no steak diane for my new granddaughter :)
     
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    I`d probably give it a wee bit longer lol.
     
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