Solved Very old Tree ID please

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  1. JWK

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    By old I mean the photos date from the early 1900s, I am researching my family history and have these sepia photos, I've enlarged a couple to get as much detail as possible.

    The tree is in the back garden of my Great Grandparent's Farm in Sherburn (a small village near Malton, North Yorkshire).

    I would love to know what the tree is, it’s been used as the back drop for many of my family’s photos. It would have been mature when my Great Grandparents moved into the farm so they didn’t plant it, it must be something common for that part of Yorkshire.

    The soil type is: Low fertility, freely draining slightly acid sandy soil and the aspect is south facing.


    The date of the first four is 29 Oct 1907 (my Grandmother’s wedding) - just in case the time of year helps:
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    And this is sometime in 1904:
    Sleightholme family in Sherburn c1904-2.jpg
    Sleightholme family in Sherburn c1904.jpg
     
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      I wonder if it could be a weeping ash? Those are fascinating photos!
       
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        Well I reckon the tree is a caucasian wingnut.:smile:
        Or possibly a Black walnut.

        Come on John, which one of those kids in pic 5 is you.:lunapic 130165696578242 5:
         
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          Who you with John regarding researching your family...I used to be with GR but they've altered their tree so many times it's horrible.:)

          John that tree reminds me of an old weeping willow.
           
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            @pete... John comes from a wealthy back ground for pictures to be done like that :pathd:
             
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              Looks like a Weeping Ash to me.. One in the village here, lovely tree..
              [​IMG]

              The leaves look wrong for the Wingnut or Black Walnut Pete I think..​
               
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                Agree with the ash ID.
                 
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                  Sorry Gail.... but leaves are completely wrong for a willow.

                  1st is Fraxinus excelsior leaflets..weeping ash.
                  FRAXINUS EXCELSIOR 17-06-2012 15-02-01. SAMBUCUS NIGRA LEFT 17-06-2012 15-02-002.JPG
                  Pics below show weeping willow leaves.

                  SALIX BABYLONICA WEEPING WILLOW 15-05-2018 11-26-47.JPG SALIX BABYLONICA WEEPING WILLOW 15-05-2018 11-27-17.JPG
                   
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                    Hi Silver surfer I have a weeping willow in the middle of my garden and the leaves are nothing like the picture you've added...as the one I have comes in small / medium and large.
                     

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                    Thanks for all your help folks!

                    Gail you are right, by the standards of the day they were well off, nothing came down to me though just their good looks :heehee:
                     
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                      I know mate as I have pic's besides Graveyard ones in my tree dressed like your family and the head stones was quite big...but at least your looks do you credit [​IMG] ;)
                       
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                      Sorry Gail your plant doesn't look like a Willow to me. Could we have a close up of the leaves please. :)
                       
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                        Sheal it is a weeping willow but I don't let it grow like it should :whistle: I style it :snorky: but i'll see if I've got a closer look hold on please :)
                         
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                        @Sheal this is the only one took really close up :)

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                        There isn't a picture on your post Gail. :scratch:
                         
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