When did we go soft?

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  1. shiney

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    Cajary, no problem :thmb:. Some of the bosses in my business used to contact me and ask how I managed to keep my staff and have the reputation for everyone being happy. I always told them that it was easy as I had four rules. 1. Pay them as much as I could afford. 2. Dont hide anything about how the business was run. 3. Always discuss new ideas with them. 4. Always admit it when I had made a mistake.

    I've been retired for nearly eight years and am still in contact with a lot of them :). Some of them have made Mrs shiney and myself honourary grandparents of their children. :gnthb:

    I've never understood why a lot of bosses acted like yours :scratch:
     
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    So in other words, to be a fair man. Principles which we all learn from.
     
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    Lollipop and Shiney.:gnthb:
     
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    Thanks Claire and Cajary :)

    It also made life a lot easier for me. I didn't have to worry about telling lies. I enjoyed going to work (and so did the staff) and the atmosphere was always great. We were able to spend most of the day joking around - whilst doing our work :yho:. I made less money (some of my staff earned more than me when times weren't so good) but had a great time. So I give a big thank you to my staff :gnthb:
     
  5. Jack by the hedge

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    I remember trudging through the snow and ice to school in the '63 winter. As a Londoner I also remember groping my way, following garden-hedges for guidance, from school to home (about a mile) through dense "pea-soupers." Did we close the schools then? Yes...15 minutes early to allow us to get through the fog!
     
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    You don't need to go back as far as 1963. I remember in the late 70s, early 80s when I was too young to walk to school on my own, my mum took us on foot through the snow and ice in a blizzard. There was an old concrete arched bridge across the railway. It was one big arch of ice. Nowadays it would have been considered unpassable in that condition. I remember us forming a human chain with one hand each, using our spare hands to pull ourself up on the frozen metal railing, while at one point being on our knees. It was great fun, it felt like we are pioneering mountain climbers trying to climb a glacier or something:)
     
  7. DiggerDan

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    As somewhat a young'un I don't travel in snow conditions just because people don't seem to adjust their driving to the conditions at hand. For example last week during the bad snow there were far too many people going over the speed limit on badly snowed/iced roads (Limit is 30).

    I can drive as safe as I need to, but me driving safely doesn't stop someone else causing an accident.

    Also, I'd love to walk to work but its five or seven towns away........ Roughly 8 miles away. Which I'm sure my mum has mentioned that we live pretty much in the middle of nowhere. Plus who'd walk 8 miles to work when they've only got a short shift that day? :)
     
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    It's funny what people remember. I also remember the "pea soupers" in London, which we thought were great fun, and Mum making us clean our noses out when we got home from school. It was amazing how much muck we breathed in through our noses :)

    The pea-souper was also known as "London Particular" and the term was in use over 200 years ago. Even Dickens used it in one of his books.

    Between the 5th and 9th December 1952 they estimate that about 4,000 people in London died as a consequence of the fog.
     
  9. walnut

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    DiggerDan said,
    I would if I didn't have my bike.
     
  10. shiney

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    When our road used to get blocked by snow (two or three days each year) I used to walk 5 miles to the nearest town (where I worked) and thumb a lift from there or walk the last couple of miles.
     
  11. DiggerDan

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    Haha when I talk of a short shift, I'm talking 4 hours at near enough minimum wage. I do take pride in my work, but its very hard to justify walking that distance for that short of time. It would probably take me 2 hours (at least) each way.
     
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    Dan said.
    Dan my outlook on life is and always has been different to most peoples I wouldn't have to justify walking that distance I would look on it as a challenge even if the weather was diabolical and enjoy the nature on the way,I did an average of 200miles a week just cycling to work for 42 years never once gave in to the weather,never had time off through illness so must have done something right.Don't use a car (unless mrs Walnut needs help with the shopping) I think nothing out the ordinary to a 100mile bike ride.Last week I cut a 25ft holly tree down with a hand saw and axe just love physical challeges,nutter maybe but a fit one.
     
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    Walnut, having read what you have said I have decided that I have gone soft :hehe: :rotfl: :rotfl:
     
  14. DiggerDan

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    Yeah Walnut you deffinately are a tough one. Haha I'd have to start my own hand mined/dug quarry to match that physical fitness :)
     
  15. Pro Gard

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    Being self employed I please myself if i work in snow or not.

    I rather take after Walnut in that personally Id get too to the area of heavyset snow fall locally then go on a very long walk 10 miles ish.

    Better than struggling to work in the snow, The week in question I was repairing agricultural fencing, so not the pleasantest or easiest job to do with 8" of snow, Id have to have dug around every post to be able to get to the lowest staples!!!!

    Snowfall is so rare Id rather have a day off and enjoy it, sod working in it.
     
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