Brexit - am I stupid or what?

I don't think the Tories would dare to revoke article 50 in their current position at least, because that would be seen to be completely disregarding the will of the people. I also don't think that they want to take the risk that the Labour vote may be split in the way that you suggest - firstly, the Tories have pissed off so many people since getting into power in the coalition, that their traditional voter-base is nowhere near as strong as it was, and there are a lot of people that have had a gutful of being taxed more and more, and seeing more and more cuts, all while the rich just keep on getting richer. It is like a re-run of the 80's in many ways.

Corbyn, yes, the man is an idiot in my view - but then, so are almost all politicians; they are little more than overgrown school children who are only ever out to save their own skin and sod everyone else. You only need to look at what is currently happening with Sir Terry Morgan to see that sort of stuff in full swing. Anyway, I digress - I have been a Labour voter throughout my life, with the exception of once when I decided to give Nick Clegg a crack of the whip (and look what that got us!), and even I find Corbyn unelectable. BUT, in many ways I would rather take my chances with him than the Tories, and there is no way in hell that the Lib Dems would ever get my vote again. If there was a sensible alternative - a new party, with common sense at the helm, then they would likely get my vote.

The thing with Corbyn, and the thing not to underestimate, is that he is liked by a lot of the younger generation - the generation that are sometimes called 'snowflakes' nowadays; they are a lot more about the human factors than perhaps even people of my generation are, and as such are leaning to the left; then, the unions will rally round behind him - not because they want to see him in power, but because they want to see the Tories OUT.

However, I remain firm in my mind that they are going to continue to act this out - making it look like they are doing something or standing up for what is right, and then the proposal will fail when it comes to passing through parliament. Following that, it will be decided that we the people will have to go back to the polls to vote again, and sufficient fear will have been instilled in the public that when coupled with the vast majority of us being sick to the back teeth of the whole thing that the majority will swing marginally the other way, and Brexit will be over.

I don't think it will end there though - I do think there will be riots (quite literally) for a while after, and have my own reasons for believing this to be so. Time will tell.

Either way, May is only working her way toward her P45, and she knows it -- but still, she has had her five minutes of fame. Oh, and the reason that Cameron's decision will be seen as a terrible mistake is because it was - he believed that he could smirk his way through like the smug barsteward he is, and that the 'little people' would vote the way that he wanted them to (wow, finally found a use for that smiley!)

well, he got it wrong.

 

That bit is easy. The government now have to reveal to parliament the details of the legal advice they were given by the Attorney General's office. It doesn't really impact on the current five day debate about May's Deal.

Did any of you listen to Farage resigning from UKIP? Interesting little speech. He says he can't stay in the party because it's becoming the National Front/British National Party (my words, not his) and he had built UKIP to specifically ban those people. If it wasn't dead already it's a ,slow, final nail in its coffin.

 

Good morning thank you @shiney so what ever the legal advice contains it won't make any difference then,if that is correct what is all the fuss about

 

Depending on what the advice actually was it may have a slight influence on how MPs vote in parliament on May's Deal. This is a five day debate but I can't see the government releasing the advice for another few days yet.

 

VAPP - Veterans and Peoples Party. Eminently sensible approach, not sure how much traction they'll get though as a new party

UKIP was dead as soon as Farage left; he was the only one with the charisma and stamina to keep it going

Yup, can easily see a last minute release of the info! Gamesmanship.

Anyhoo, given the result of the 3rd vote yesterday then TM will be out by this time next week and I have no idea how British politics will take it forward after that! They're a mystery! If there is another vote on Brexit though it will have betrayed a democratic vote and the party calling it will be pilloried.