Who believes Trump?

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  1. HarryS

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    Just allegations, from the reports I have read there is little to no substance in them. You can go on YouTube and FB and get your fill of conspiracy theories, again no evidence as usual.
     
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      Given the numbers involved, I’d be very surprised if there weren’t any irregularities, but systematically committing acts of fraud? I don’t buy it. Given Trumps track record with fraud, I think it’s a bit rich. All Trump is now doing is stoking a fire.
       
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      • ThePlantAssassin

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        After trump was screaming 'FRAUD' before all the votes were counted wouldn't it have been hysterical if he'd won........... he would have pooped on his own doorstep so to speak.

        On a serious note I hope they sort the mess out before anybody gets seriously hurt.
         
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        • ARMANDII

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          I've never seen you out of your depth, pete, on any subject.:dunno::cat-kittyandsmiley::coffee:
           
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            Possibly, but that's because if I dont know what they are on about, I try to not get too involved.;)
             
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              Does anyone else feel that no. 10 is shifting out the trumpesque faction in preparation for Biden?

              on a more positive vibe not only has Cumming’s gone but there’s a rumour Trump may attend the rally this weekend. Be a shame if someone slotted him.
               
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                @Loofah
                I'm quite surprised he hasn't been slotted before now. They do seem to have a way of trying to bump off their Presidents

                As for Cummings. Watching him walk out with his brown cardboard box was just too funny. Gotta be up there with the all time great Walks of Shame
                 
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                  Ok, I'm out. But I would like to have it on record that there was nothing "aggressive" in my requests for evidence - I openly said I would immediately concede if it was provided - and it was nothing to do with "opposing thoughts". It was to do with someone stating a proven falsehood (the Obama child separation claim) and then a well known conspiracy theory often employed as an antisemitic trope. Conspiracy theories, especially in these charged times, are dangerous and have no place on respectable, "friendly" websites - in my opinion, if you take your responsibilities in administering this site seriously, you would do well to ensure that while anyone is free to state their view, they should back up accusations of political corruption with evidence. Such claims are rarely made in a vacuum, and have ramifications the more they are spread. While I disagree with Soros' politics, I am only too well aware of the background to the claim that was made, and the implications of it. If you are not, then fair enough, but you should not make me out to be the proverbial bad guy for requesting evidence, when it is the most reasonable possible request to make. Anyway, I don't want to be associated with websites where these sorts of tropes are shared without comeback, so, in keeping with your own suggestion, that is me done.
                   
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                    Your choice, my friend, your choice.
                     
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                    Lets face facts, trump as preside
                    If the evidence was freely available, Hilary would be dead and buried (politically), she ain't stupid, thats why Trump stopped, IMO it will come out in 25 years or so, the US will not release Anne secoolas, as a matter of national security, they protect their own, andvto go on the rant you have, is just like the political divide we have nowdays, I hate Trump, Brexit is wrong, you only see what you want to see, you quote websites that are Biased at best, you told me you could not find anything about the site you quote from, yet a month ago, the very claims I mentioned, the site you quote, deny the claims as fake/untrue,, but you cannot find this, as good a resesrcher you claim to be. To be honest questions and debate is healthy, but veiws are so polarised nowdays, there is no middle ground for adult conversation, or reasoning, I have my views you have yours. It boils down to, Novichok was used in Salisbury, prove it came from Russia, only time will tell, Hilary is a powerful person, with certain abilities, I cannot prove my claim, I am not in a poistion to, I only have my opinion, which is, Hilary is a horrible coniving person that rhymes with, I will leave it there, but I use websites that tend to waver to my beleifs, as do you, but in this dase IMO, I am right you are wrong, simply because, you claim to be Liberal, but you aint.
                     
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                    • ARMANDII

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                      Let's not:dunno:, Cuttings, as it would be pointless and members of GC were criticising the continued impasse that the discussion had reached.
                      Simon has, under his own volition, decided to leave GC and therefore perhaps more reasonable and respectful discussions might follow.
                       
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                        Ok, agree
                         
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                        • Freddy

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                          Would you please not use these terms. I find them offensive, and I’m guessing I’m not the only one.
                           
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                            I fully uphold your right to be offended @Freddy, however I also uphold my own right to freedom of expression and give my assurance that the terminology used was considerably politer than the wording that initially sprang to mind.
                             
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                              You obviously don’t get it.
                               
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