Child Benefits to be cut, surely about time!!!

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  1. Hec

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    An awful lot do do this and it just demonstrates why it shouldn't be paid in the first place to families who don't need it.

    It's intention is to ensure that children don't go without (especially when the breadwinner! didn't cough up the bread) as it was specifically paid to the person who stayed at home to look after the children.
     
  2. Hec

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    Well Said ClaraLou
     
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    Again - Well Said

    We are the lucky ones born into a country that at least tries to care for those who can't care for themselves.

    Some have earned 'brownie points' during their lives but it doesn't alter the fact the where and to whom we are born is pure LUCK
     
  4. andrewh

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    Lots of problems in the country - it's really quite depressing!
    I just wish successive Governments had got to grip earlier with the bankers around the world who caused this mess in the first place.

    The problem is, we now have David Cameron and George Osborne running the country - both millionaires many times over from family wealth, never had to work for it.

    They will never know what it's like for us normal folk getting by, so we have to expect the worst from this Government.
     
  5. Kandy

    Kandy Will be glad to see the sun again soon.....

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    What amuses me with all this is the fact that if you have a single parent earning £44,000 a year and a couple earning £42,000 each a year{£84,000 total},then the single parent will lose out.This idea definetley wasn't thought out by our Millionaire leaders.I think Cameron and Clegg will finish the job that Thatcher started in the eighties and that is to totally destroy the working classes, and all that they fought for over the last x number of years.

    In our village all the parents on £44,000 and above are all keeping quiet as they are all Tory voters.but no doubt they will blame it on the other party.

    I heard the other week that the Fuel allowance and bus passes are the next targets and I have just found this out on the net....

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11500161
     
  6. Doghouse Riley

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    I really don't think that the Winter Fuel Allowance should be paid to those pensioners who winter, or permanently live in Spain or other relatively warm countries. I don't think that was for what the allowance was designed.

    I also think the government should get a grip of these mostly foreign owned utility companies, that are actually ripping off the people of this country.
     
  7. Kandy

    Kandy Will be glad to see the sun again soon.....

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    Philip Hollobone{Conservative has already addressed in the commons the subject of the Winter Fuel Allowance for overseas ex brits after loads of pensioners on our local radio station were ringing in to complain about it.

    At the moment I am glad that I don't live in one of the Pigs countries{Portugal,Ireland,Greece or Spain}as their economies are in a worse state than ours.

    I thought the idea of Ted Heath wanting us all to belong to the Common Market{EU} back in the seventies was so that once we were all together,then anyone from any of those countries belonging to the Common Market could go and live and work in those countries and visa versa,so we can't complain about all the so called foreigners who come to live and work here as that was the whole idea of it in the first place..

    Oh and by the way,I am blonde with blue/grey eyes with a Roman nose so my family must have all been foreigners in the dim and distant past,and they had nine kids of their own,fostered kids as well and then adopted someone elses child when the mother got herself pregnant in the days when having a baby out of wedlock was a shameful thing.They got the usual allowances but nothing like they get now and we were still quiet poor even with my dad working full time and my mum doing outdoor work:)

    The outlook looks pretty bleak for the whole country and as they say we are all in it together so we might as well buckle down and get on with it:)
     
  8. Doghouse Riley

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    As a nation, we've this old-fashioned idea of "playing by the rules" it's bred into us.
    On the Continent, "they fit where they touch."

    So whilst our government ensure that we conform, the rest of Europe try to circumvent any they find inconvenient or simply ignore them.

    Our government need to have a bit of backbone. We pay more into Europe than we get back. So I don't think it's a very good arrangement.

    Any decisions made by the European parliament, a den of graft and corruption (what sane company would run parallel head offices?) that aren't to our advantage.
    "Just say no!"
     
  9. Surfer

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    At least the current fiasco we can lay the blame on the previous government who believed that there was a bottomless pot. The Tories will dig us out of the hole, get the economy back on its feet and then Labout will come into power and the whole cycle will start again!
    Either way Joe Public loses!
     
  10. JWK

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    Well said Surfer, there isn't a bottomless pot unlike the last govt thought, so we all have to live within our means, Dickens' Mr Micawber understood this even in the 19th century:

    "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen six, result happiness.
    Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds and six, result misery."

    There have to be some very painful cuts in all areas, those on low incomes are going to feel it the worse, those on higher have a bigger buffer so won't be too badly affected - it's the way of the world.
     
  11. Doghouse Riley

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    My biggest gripe is over interest rates which have fallen due to the greed of bankers and this wimpy government have let get them away with it and they're still paying themselves huge bonuses.

    The money I had invested which a year or so ago was earning 7% monthly, is now down to 4.5%. It's not the end of the world for me as I've the state pension, a company pension and an annuity. The inflation rates in the last twelve years has been kind to the latter. But this huge drop in income for some who relied on investments bought with their hard earned cash is I bet causing hardship.
     
  12. pete

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    I think we all hate bankers and that goes without saying, and we agree they got us into this mess along with Tony Blair and Gordon Brown.

    BUT, would we still be in this mess if the general public had not climbed on the bandwagon.

    People spending vast amounts of money on credit because interest rates were rock bottom, people buying large houses they could not afford but just had to have.

    I dont think the blame lies anywhere other than the government of the time that allowed the "feel good factor" to run the country, get everybody spending even if they cant afford it, seemed to be the approach.
     
  13. Doghouse Riley

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    I've always been reluctant to owe anyone any money. The only debt I had was a mortgage, which I regularly over-paid to ensure that it was cleared well before I planned to retire. Same with a credit card, I've only the one and clear the balance every month. I've always had to "justify the expense" of anything I've bought...to myself!

    My kids who are all reasonably well off have a totally different attitude to debt though all of them are good at managing their money and have no problems.

    They good humouredly interpret my attitude as being "tight."
     
  14. pete

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    I've got to agree with most of that DH.

    When the common market was formed I was under the impression it was a small group of countries of similar wealth that were to trade with one another, even so I was against joining, and Ted Heath should have been hung up at traitors gate for accepting a personal handout for getting us involved.

    Since then it appears any lame duck country is able to join which creates the large movement of migrant workers from the poorer countries to the wealthier ones, until that is we pour money into those countries and a balance returns, along with the migrant workers.

    Strikes me as being a very strange way of running a club, and eventually the whole world might join, at which point we will be back to square one.:D
     
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    Surely that is down to those people who didn`t have the guts to back Labour or the Tories? These are the people who took the power away from a PROPER government. So, you fence sitters, you are to blame.:gnthb:
     
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