10-10-10 and 8-8-8 fertiliser

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    I have read online that these are the best fertilisers but can anyone name a brand with this composition . I haven't been able to find fertilisers wih this ratio
     
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    Doesn't it depend what you're trying to grow?
     
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      . Its for a fruit tree but as i say i cant find any products that have this ratio. Do you know any ?
       
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      I'm not convinced that's the ideal ratio for fruit. Unless you're ground is nitrogen starved, I wouldn't be looking for a high N number. Nitrogen promotes foliage. I'd be more interested in the P for potassium for fruit.

      But without getting too hung up on numbers, I personally find Miracle Grow and Tomarite good for fruit.
       
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        This is a picture of it, it's meant to be a peach tree
         

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        Personally I wouldn't and don't get too hung up on the numbers.
        I use Growmore which is 7:7:7: as a general fertiliser for fruit trees in spring time
        Chicken pellets are 4.5:3.5:2.5 + trace elements: gets used as a general fertiliser, supposed to be slower release.
        Blood fish and bone 5:8:6: also gets used; often mixed into planting holes along with mycorrhizal fungi as its slower release and doesn't have a bad effect on the mycorrhiza.
        Miracle gro 24:8:16 + trace elements: gets used on pots and greenhouse plants high nitrogen to promote growth and trace elements that can be leached out with frequent watering. Also I like the blue colour.
        Tomorite 4:3:8: high potassium supposed to promote fruit and flowers gets used in the greenhouse on tomatoes and peppers as the fruits develop.
        Looks a lot; but a bag of the general purpose fertilisers lasts several years and which gets used depends which I have to hand when I decide to do the job, generally they get applied in spring time once signs of growth are obvious.
        Also I use Epsom salt as a source of magnesium for some plants that often show magnesium deficiency, lime for the brassicas.
        I wouldn't use anything on fruit trees and bushes at the moment: next spring I will hoe round them use a general fertiliser and mulch with garden compost assuming it has rained by then.
         
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          pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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          Surely the numbers you are quoting are suggesting just a balanced fertiliser with the same amount of all three elements.
          I just use a balanced one in spring and early summer and high potash around now, I use it up until late in the season because I I think it helps the plant ripen the wood and hopefully affect fruiting next year.
          But I could be wrong on that.

          Yes it does appear to be a healthy looking peach tree.
           
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            Um..isn't it 'K' for potassium and 'P' for phosphorous?
             
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              10:10:10 and 8:8:8 are so called balanced ratios, same as Growmore which is 7:7:7 and easily available. Just use slightly more Growmore per square m to achieve the same result as 8:8:8
               
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                Potassium is always the last one.
                Usually written NPK.
                 
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                  There is a wide range of different compound fertilisers but in general they only tend to be available to the commercial/professional sector. It will depend on what your growing and what the analysis of the soil is. The higher the numbers, the more potent the fertiliser is, that is also reflected in the cost. Some of the fertiliser I buy costs £90 for a 25kg, that is a trade price and for buying in 1 ton lots,not cheap.
                   
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                    The NPK analysis can also differ depending on the manufacturer, In general Growmore at 7-7-7 tends to be consistent across all manufacturers.

                    The blood fish and bone I get is 5-5-6, the poultry pellets are 4.5-3.2-3.1 + 9.0 CA, which are different in analysis to what NigelJ has been using, but like he says, don't bother to much about them, they all tend to be very similar in analysis.
                     
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                      Probably. Sorry. I've been forgetting things lately.
                       
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                        Thanks I just wanted a balanced one but everything I looked at didn't seem balanced. I can get Growmore today it seems
                         
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                          Is it even worth adding fertiliser to it considering the time of year etc. I'm not expecting it to bear fruits
                           
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