Are these apples please?

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    Sorry Silver Surfer and all, I should have thought of that in my first post. :doh:
     
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      Bark doesn't look like pear.
      Nor cherry.

      Flowers look like Malus.
      But need to check flowers carefully.

      Cherries and plums, sloes have a single stone...so flowers have a single female part..stigma.

      Apples have normally 5 pips inside...so flowers have 5 female parts...5 stigma.
      see below MALUS  CRAB  APPLES  HALVED 28-09-2019 17-51-27.JPG MALUS  HALVED  APPLE 24-09-2019 15-00-27.JPG Below sloe...showing single stone.


      PRUNUS  SPINOSA  SLOE 21-09-2021 09-41-10.JPG PRUNUS  SPINOSA  SLOE 26-10-2020 18-30-17.JPG
       
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        Thank you Silver Surfer, that certainly looks like it. :thumbsup: I've past the link onto my son.
         
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          I was not saying it is Malus Gorgeous.
          That just happened to be one where I could see the 5 x stigma.

          It may be an eating apple or a crab apple.

          There are masses of Malus sp and named cultivars.
          Need to see leaves /need to see the fruits etc etc.
          Need an expert....ie not me.
           
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            I realise you can't give a completely positive id @Silver surfer but that looks very close to what my son has, and I think we can safely say it is a Malus. He has confirmed the fruit is completely red. I will ask him to provide leaf and fruit shots later in the year.

            Thank you, but looking at Malus Coronaria @infradig the trunk seems very distorted on it and doesn't resemble those of my son's. The fruit seems to have a certain amount of yellow in it too.
             
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            As there are so many varieties of apples it is always difficult to work out what a lot of them are except by close examination of the fruit and leaf. In some areas of this country, usually in October, there are usually free identification stands at fruit fares at some orchards. We are lucky to have one near us each year - they have a 'pick your own at the orchard that day as well'.

            They were able to identify our apples and it was quite fascinating to see the pointers they look for. The shape of the little notch in the bottom of the apple, the pattern of the colour striations on the skin, the shape of the leaves etc. All them them being pointed out to us in books as well as by discussion of the experts.

            Apart from already knowing we had Bramleys we also have Sunset, Edward VII, Warner's King, Charles Ross and Peasgood Nonsuch. Our houses used to be part of an old orchard and the trees are over 70 years old and probably closer to 100 years. We take great care of them and always get a fantastic crop. :dbgrtmb:
             
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              The flowers look like Malus but the total look is of Japanese Flowering Cherry.
               
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              Need to check flowers carefully.

              Cherries and plums, sloes have a single stone...so flowers have a single female part..stigma.

              Pic below showing blackthorn/sloe.
              Note a single stigma.

              PRUNUS  SPINOSA  BLACKTHORN  SLOE 12-Apr-10 4-58-09 PM.jpg
               
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