What died on you this winter?

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  1. Janet mahay

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    In some parts of thecountry it was bad it was not too bad where i live but i still lost a few plants including winter jasmin seems if a plant hardy or not you can still lose it
     
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      I lost two 8 ft Cordylines and 3 smaller ones all in the ground. The 3 smaller ones were insurance backup plants but got too big for containers so I had to plant out. Also lost all three Beschomeria Septentrionalis, 2 x Furcrae in the ground and a smaller insurance potted one in the unheated greenhouse, 1 x Daphne odora, all the Musa basjoos (but have lost them in years gone by when I didn't wrap them up). One or two Salvias - Hot Lips has a few green bits.

      Still waiting for a few others to spark into life, Lobelia tupa, I'll be miffed if the Bourgainvillea and Zantedeschia calla lily ''Hercules' have died. Looks like Melianthus major has gone too - but that has always been borderline. The Oleandar got to 6 ft and now looks very sad, I expect it's already kicked the bucket.
       
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        I think my losses are all plants classed as tender, all the hardier stuff seems OK. In fact the beech hedges that disliked the hot dry summer and defoliated in the autumn (for the first time in my memory) have now greened up as per normal.
         
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          I lost two Solanum crispums, a blue one and a white one. The blue one was a few years old.
          I've also lost a Euonymus. I've got a few and most of them are on trellises. They survived but the free-standing one looks dead. I haven't really checked it properly but it does look dead.
           
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            We reckon we have lost over 100 plant - and trees! We started getting rid of some of the obviously dead plants but have decided to leave them and just wait to see whether there will be any sign of recovery.

            37 Hebes are definitely dead but eleven two year old cuttings that we had been preparing for sale this year have survived so will replace some of them. All our plants in pots in the nursery areas, on paving and exposed to the elements, have survived. Some hebes have survived with no damage at all but they are all the large bushy types with small leaves.

            All our cordylines appear to have turned their toes up but we think we can see a couple of green leaves in two of them. We're not sure if they are new or just some that have not turned brown although dead. Our three Coronilla have gone. All seven Erysimum bowles Mauve and Chelsea Jacket have definitely kicked the bucket.

            Nine Euphorbias have gone but others seem totally untouched. We were very sad that our largest Euphorbia mellifera that usually grows to about 8ft high and 10ft diameter had given up the ghost. We didn't dig it out because it is too big a job but it is now sprouting new shoots around the perimeter and just a few inside the cut down stems :hapydancsmil:. It's going to be a hard job with the loppers trying to cut out the thick woody stems that are dead. It's too much for my back so we shall get someone to do it for us.

            Lots of others, can't remember at the moment but we have lost two Laburnum trees (about 25ft high( but a third is totally untouched), our 12ft high beautiful Sophora microphylla 'Sun King' is a spectacular winter flowering tree that is listed as being 'fully hardy', a 70ft specimen conifer has had to be cut down as has one of our 40 year old plum trees.

            Our summer flowering Magnolia that we planted 40-50 years ago looked totally dead but we're pleased we didn't have that removed as it has now sprouted six leaves :fingers crossed:

            Some other 10ft flowering trees (forgotten their names :doh:) are definitely dead but I have put chicken wire around them and we're growing Clematis up them. All our Clematis in pots survived :scratch: (all small flowered varieties) and are now flowering around those trees. We'll see what else we can grow up them.

            I'll try and remember the names of some more of them but my memory for names is not so good nowadays :old:. Fortunately I have a mobile plant encyclopedia called Mrs Shiney! :heehee:

            Of course, all our Dahlias have gone. Weeds are doing brilliantly! :sad:
             
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              No sign of dahlias. Fragrant leaf pelargoniums froze to death in their pots. Callas, regular and Herkules, had mushy tops, but are coming back to life now. We had 3 weeks (1 each month) of when everything froze solid for an entire week.
               
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              • pete

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                I can understand quite a lot of that lot not liking the cold, @shiney but it's the hardy stuff that surprises me.
                Laburnum for instance, Magnolia damaged, do you think it was mostly last summer's drought.
                 
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                  Lots of different nerines and species gladioli :sad:. They were kept dry in pots in cold greenhouse but still went squishy. Yet an amaryllis type in same location hasn't even lost a leaf.
                  Grevilleas - most gone. Acacias - baileyana and costinia gone but pravissima and boormanii ok. Watsonia gone but noticed a bit of green on aristea next to it in border!
                  And the echiums that were as tall as me and ready to flower this year.... blackened.
                  Sometimes I wonder whether to stick to hardier stuff, but this thread has shown me that even they suffered after that short sharp frost.
                   
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                    @pete Yes, the Laburnums surprised us as well. Funnily enough they are alongside the other two trees that I have put the chicken wire on but have forgotten their names.

                    The Magnolia could have been affected by the summer (so could some of the other trees) and the cold spell could have been the final straw. :noidea: It flowered OK from April until July.

                    One of our trees we had cut down was a slim trunk conifer with not thick foliage that had been outside our lounge window for 70 years. We called it Sarafi's tree because he always climbed up it when he wanted to attract our attention when we were in the lounge. He used to lean out sideways and wave a paw at us! :). The week after he died the tree died!!! :rolleyespink:

                    I'm sure you met Sarafi when you were here.
                     
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                    • pete

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                      I've lost at least 2 big cordylines might be more but not sure yet.
                      Acacia pravissima appears to be badly damaged and might well be not worth keeping, Melianthus is coming back from the ground, it's done that many times before, pomegranate and Lagerstoemias now shooting.
                      I'm actually quite surprised what has survived.
                       
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                        I think it was a combination of things, the drought last summer stressed a lot of plants even if you could water them all, the high temperatures won't have helped; then there was rain and a long fairly mild autumn and a lot of plants produced young growth (reports of spring flowering shrubs reflowering etc). Then early December temperatures suddenly dropped and this young growth got frosted, plants weren't properly dormant and for some this was the last straw, especially as, down here, there was a seies of milder spells followed by a cold week.
                        I got off fairly lightly compared to many people with some pleasent surprises.
                         
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                        • Clare G

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                          I lost an echium candicans which didn't surprise me, as it is was a young thing planted out in the borders last year. My salvias also took a hammering but I've not lost any; I thought a big old well-established Amistad was a goner, but it is now beginning to shoot again from the base. I would definitely advise people to wait a bit before hoicking out seemingly dead perennials, here in London at any rate the soil is so cold and the night temperatures have been so low that even well-established plants are further behind than normal.

                          My pleasant surprise was the dwarf papyrus in a pot in my pond, definitely not supposed to be hardy. When I took the sad-looking remains out of the pot, inside all the dead stuff were some viable roots and signs of new shoots. So they've gone back into the pot, and the pond, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed!
                           
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                          • pete

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                            Good point @Clare G ,I think it is still early, weather wise, to be writing off things that are not shooting yet.
                             
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                              I agree with this, between about the 4th December and 18th there constant frosts and I had a data logger in my greenhouse that didn't go above -3c for 6 days straight and down to -9c, outside of course is less. Then you are in the darkest days of winter so little in the way of light for any chance of plants recuperating.

                              I don't have much in the way of perennials that got damaged but my overwintered veg pretty much all died. Even half the swedes which are incredibly frost hardy
                               
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                                The drought certainly killed somethings off, for example Vallea stipularis planted last year, a Calycanthus and a newly planted dwarf Rhododendron.
                                The cold (-3°C in greenhouse) killed off Iochroma fuchsoides, I coccinea, Salvia corrugata, a S gesneriiflora. Survivors include two smaller S gesneriiflora, S darcyi, I purpurea, Fuchsia paniculata, these were defoliated and are just coming back some from the base or the stem.
                                A couple of nerines were mushed as were some other small bulbs, a couple of hippeastrum were fine though as was Sinningia tubiflora, a number of Amorphophallus and most of the dahlias.
                                Outside S confertiflora and S involuctra I think are definitely gone, but Impatiens tinctoria, I balansae, I insignis are all shooting, I flanaganae, I pritzelii, I gomophylla yet to put in an appearance, I gomophylla is the most tender. Eriolarynx australis (Iochroma australis) is sprouting as is Mitraria coccinea, hates dry weather and is fairly tender.
                                 
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