Advice on how to train rose

We've been growing a pink perpetue for just over a year now what do people use to train roses? The idea was to have it covering the pergola roof.

Is it just a case of tieing it up to the pergola roof

 

Yes - here's one I prepared earlier
The rose is Felicite Perpetue - my pergola is somewhere under it all
I tied the stems to the crossbeams initially then didn't touch it for about 20 years and it carried on growing on top of itself.

 

Presumably it's planted in the ground at the foot of one of the uprights to your pergola? then as it grows upwards, you tie it to the support with string until it reaches the top, then you start training the canes across the top.. however this isn't a particularly large growing rose and can be slow to start.. it depends how large your pergola is as to whether it will cover the whole top or not.
Without a photo I couldn't advise on that.

It's a different rose to Felicite Perpetue shown above, spectacular though that is.. Pink Perpetue is a large flowered climber, not a rambler as such.

 

I did tie bits as it was growing up the pergola, but found pushing the new growth through the trellis helped get it going.

I'm hoping the top bits will eventually flop down?

Apologies I thought I uploaded the pictures which would help

@Pete8 Your garden is Beautiful

 

Oh that's odd, the photos weren't visible to me when I replied. Now I can see them. You've let those long top shoots get a bit out of hand, they will be rather stiff now, but if possible for you, you should get on a ladder and gradually bring them down to the top bars and tie with string.. otherwise they will just go up and up and wave about in the wind.. doesn't look very nice that.

You have to be careful as those stems could snap off but don't worry if they do, it'll grow new ones, but ease them down gradually, they do not have to be horizontal, but just angled downwards. You'll get more flowering shoots that way.

As you can see, it's a stiff growing climbing rose, not entirely suited to your purpose, as these types of roses just want to go skyward and are not the easiest to train, so you have to make the best of it.

 

Thank you, yes it's suddenly shot right up and I wasn't too sure what to do so ive just left it. I've managed to guide the other shoots up and under the top bits of the pergola but I wasn't sure,if it was okay.

I'll go out there tomorrow and see if I can tie them down.

I had to reupload the pictures

I've got another rose around the corner which I'm hoping will join up its a Phyllis Bide

 

@DaveyB as MrsH says, be careful with those long stems as they are easily snapped. I don’t grow this one but I imagine it will be similar to my Generous Gardener which throws out long strong stems growing away from my pergola.
I would aim to coax them back to top of pergola gradually over a period of a couple of weeks, not in one go. I’d tie them somewhere in the middle of the growth, pull down to about 45 deg, and tie it off, leave it like that for a few days to adapt itself, then repeat. Aim to fan the stems out across the pergola roof. Be extra careful at the top corner of pergola beam. Push or hold the stem away from the beam as you train it so as not to bend the stem over against the corner of the beam which would surely snap it.
It can be done, I’ve only lost one good stem like this, but as said it’s not the end of the world if it happens as it will regrow more.
Good luck.

 

That looks magnificent @Pete8

 

I think if that was mine, I'd be wanting to train those two long shoots across the front of the pergola, along that beam, rather than across the central area. The one on the right should be do-able, the one against the wall might be tricky.
I'd leave the rest of the pergola to your 'Phyllis Bide', which can be slow to start but will eventually take over the entire lot. At least it has few thorns.


..best of luck with Phyllis..

 

If you can safely get above the pegola roof, attach lightly to the rose shoot at three points, a cane of 5-6ft and then bring the uphill end of the attached cane progressively towards the horizontal, tying with a string you can shorten and anchor to the pergola. This will hopefully allow the rose to grow as it bends rather than snap. You can then, perhaps in autumn, tie in the shoot and remove the cane.

 

That Phyllis Bide looks magnificent too @Mrs Hillard
Don't recall having seen that before, one of yours?

 

@OwdPotter

No, I'm afraid not, or rather thankfully not, I couldn't cope with that one these days. You might be able to though?

Photo taken at Mannington, Norfolk.

 

I love the Phyllis a neighbour has one growing up there front with ivy and I've always admired it so got one for my birthday last year, hoping to cover up some of the garage brick. I just hope it's got enough space, you can see it in the background, although I'm not sure how I'm going to get it around the corner that'll be another post no doubt asking for advice

 

I’ve run out of pergolas @Mrs Hillard.
I’d need to buy a bigger house for that I think…