Surrey Police & escaped calf - DISTRESSING!!

The problem with this incident is that all we, as the public see, is what a brief camera clip shows, and what the public perceive. A young calf, disorientated and scared, is unpredictable. I've been chased by a young bullock, and shoved by it.
There is no knowing what was just out of camera view, or whom. If the police hadn't acted quickly, and someone had been hurt, they'd have been severely criticised for not preventing an 'incident'.
The police are faced with the need to make quick decisions, and they should be commended for their quick thinking in preventing human injury, whilst not severely harming the calf.
They have my support - particularly as I have needed THEIR help on occasions, and may do so again.

 

I am sure this goes against many peoples views, but I have had very little faith in the police for most of my adult life.
As an adopted Yorkshireman, the upcoming anniversary of Orgreave is a massive case in point, and it is hard to forget Hillsborough.
I grew up in a "suburb" of Birmingham, and no black kids I knew were happy being in the city centre late at night, apparently arrests for no cause, were not uncommon.
Then there's the Met!!

 

The problem is that there is the police and the copper, the police is the institution and the copper is the poor person who has to work within it , dont even mention all the laws and the things they have to get right, one word out of place and it can mean a prosecution is null and void.
Not a job I would want to do, but as with all jobs you get good and bad.

 

Firstly, you will probably find that the officers concerned are not doing the investigating, so you can't compare the matter with shoplifters investigating themselves.
I also agree that the police should NOT answer anyone in writing, unless they were personally involved in the incident, which is standard procedure once an investigation has been opened.

If it weren't for the police, I wouldn't be alive today. There may be some bad apples, as in any group of people, but I refuse to tar them all with the same brush, just because I don't agree with the behaviour of a few.

If that were the case, I wouldn't trust anybody!! Or myself. Let alone a mish-mash of individuals on a gardening website!!!

 

Problem is they are doing a pretty poor job at the moment and have in many cases in the past (Punkdoc post) . I have family who are the "copper's" and know what a great job they can do, but the good "police" officers are being forced out by poor standards.

 

I agree, I don’t think PCCs were ever a good idea.
I also don’t believe all police are bad, some are undoubtedly very good.
I met police almost daily on the intensive care unit, and over many years, my overwhelming concern, was the lack of intelligence, common sense and knowledge of what they were, and were not allowed to do. I often found myself intervening to remind them that what they wanted me to do, was illegal.
I also believe that many police hold far right political views, and that as a part of this are racist. There, I can’t unsay that now.

 

I've lost faith in the police, for many years reporting and nowt being done, the last time i reported an illegel vehicle on the highway to 101 the call handler didn't want to take the info at all then said if i see the vehicle again to ring back!!!!!!! i've seen the vehicle many times since i even reported a vehicle driving around with no number plates and the call handler asked for the reg numbler
PCC is useless i sent him some picture of things happening and nowt being done and the reply was, with the pictures you sent us there is some illegal things going on and to report these to the police, take about going around in circles!!!!
I now don't report anything

 

It’s a huge problem with recruiting in my opinion.

I’ve worked in child protection and have met some amazingly intelligent, insightful and thoroughly decent officers … both plain clothes and uniformed.

Sadly I’ve also come across some thick ignorant bullies wearing a police uniform. Some men I know tell me that their school peers who went into the police force were, almost without exception, those who were bullies at school.