Noob asking a question that has probably been asked a million times....

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  1. JWK

    JWK Gardener Staff Member

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    If its war, then the supersoaker idea seems the best to start with, get your kids to patrol the garden with them!
     
  2. Little Miss Road Rage

    Little Miss Road Rage Gardener

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    I get fox poo and hedgehog poo in my garden and both of them are runny. The only cat poo I've had has been hard. Like the others said are u sure its the cat? U haven't seen it going only sniffing. Its prob sniffing the foxes/hedgehogs scent.
     
  3. lollipop

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    Hi again,

    How exactly are you actually going to go about this Holbrook? Because the only 100% way of keeping the cat out is to have a dog in the garden constantly, and unfortunately they **** too.

    It sounds like you have already decided to despise this poor animal-who by your own admission you haven`t even seen dirtying in the garden, and have also exagerrated the amount you have to clean up.

    Your kids are not being kept in by the cat, but by you.
     
  4. holbrook99

    holbrook99 Apprentice Gardener

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    but i cant let the children out when the garden is constantly covered in poo can i, too many germs, dont get me wrong i LOVE all animals, and it would take a lot for me to despise an animal, BUT it makes me furious when every night i come home from work to find more **** and nothing seems to work to prevent it, my kids nag me to let them out but i cant because of the germs, my lawn has loads of chuncks taken out of it by my shovel because its too soft to pick up and bag, the garden is beginning to stink, its costing me money to try different ideas, and im beginning to lose patience with the situation.

    the only thing ive got left to try is a motion sensing sprayer, the big cat dung, and then im going to have to be resourceful instead
     
  5. holbrook99

    holbrook99 Apprentice Gardener

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    to big of a dollop for hedgehogs, and too early in the day for it to be foxes.
     
  6. Captain Jon

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    I thought this was a really great idea until i read it again--you meant the Poo but it might work better with the cat. Dont forget to send it recorded delivery!
     
  7. Little Miss Road Rage

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    I can't see why u can't let the kids out after u have picked it up. I was brought up with dogs and was allowed to play out in the garden as the poo was picked up. There's germs everywhere and too many kids are kept away from dirt etc and they become ill all the time. Some of the germs in the poo take a couple of weeks to become dangerous so as long as its picked up it should be ok.

    Foxes can be around at anytime. They don't just come out at night. We've seen quite a few during the day when people are at work.

    Can u take a pic of the poo cause the hedgehogs in my garden make quite big piles?

    I think making a cat poo area in a different bit in the garden that Claire suggested might be a good way of dealing with it. Also does it matter what u are spending to get rid of the problem as it is for your kids and most of the things suggested don't cost that much. Things like the teabags with ralgex sprayed on them and plastic bottles filled with water etc.

    What have u tried so far?
     
  8. Captain Jon

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    There are germs everywhere--that is correct and some of those germs kill animals and people-- Blindness in children can apparently be caught from dog faeces
     
  9. Captain Jon

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    In fact here you are

    Dog faeces carry harmful infections, the most widely known being Toxocariasis. Human toxocariasis is potentially a serious infection and is a direct consequence of soil or sand contamination with faeces carrying eggs of the parasite. The parasite can only infect humans if swallowed. Once swallowed the infection can last between six and 24 months. Frequently the infection is through the hands, but can also be with the dogs themselves or through inanimate objects such as wheels of toys, soles of shoes, etc. Many infected soil samples are found in children’s play areas and in the streets and as a result of this, Toxocariasis is mainly found in children between 18 months and five years. Eye disorders are the most commonly reported complaint associated with Toxocariasis, although other symptoms are vague aches, dizziness, nausea, asthma and epileptic fits.
     
  10. Little Miss Road Rage

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    Yeah but the poo needs to sit there for 2 weeks to start the hatching of the parasite. If its removed it should be safer.

    Like I said I was brought up with dogs and there are many people with dogs and children and I have never heard of anyone having a problem with "germs" from it including toxocariasis because they pick it up and u get the kids to wash their hands when they come in. I expect there are more germs relevant to humans in public loos. As these can be the dirtiest places and its not the loo itself its normally the taps and door handles.
     
  11. lollipop

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    There are more germs on the bar at your local you can catch things from Cap`n Jon. Of course we can`t just leave the stuff lying about, but like Little Miss I was brought up with pets-it was my job to clear the poo from the garden every Monday and Thursday-part of the deal of getting the dog, and never developed blindeness.

    I have two cats, never had any issues with those either, and I clean the litter tray daily.


    Anyway, Holbrook honestly, Mum to fellow Mum, you can let them out, make it one of their jobs to come and report any poo straightaway, if they are too young I doubt you would let them out unsupervised anyway and will be playing with them.
     
  12. Captain Jon

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    Yes sorry these experts who study diseases and germs all of their lives in laboratories must have got it wrong.
     
  13. JWK

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    Claire I think Holbrook is a "he" :)
     
  14. Little Miss Road Rage

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    We're not saying they're wrong. Yes there are diseases but most dog/cat owners worm them regularly and when it is picked up it shouldn't be a problem. I have had to research it quite thoroughly because about 18 months ago we fought the council as they wanted to stop us exercising our dogs off the lead in the local park. Since then we go around picking up any poo be it fox, dog, human (yes we've found quite a bit of human poo) from the park and we also litter pick. None of us have suffered and we all have had it on our hands at some point.

    To be honest the Jeyes fluid would bring about most of the symptoms u described there too and IMHO rats, squirrels and pigeons are prob worse and I'm sure Holbrook gets all of these in their garden. Everybody gets rats even if they don't see them

    Also whilst I was with the consultant ophthalmologist I asked about it and in 20 years he had not seen one case. More people go blind due to lack of care with diabetes, accidents and glaucoma. I have not seen one case of a child suffering from dog poo in the 10 years I have worked as an Optician. TBH I have seen more cases of children with brain tumours so it can't be too much of a threat and most people obviously handle it properly.
     
  15. lollipop

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    Unfortunately, sarcasm won`t detract from the points made Captain Jon. Cats aren`t quite the imminent threatening dangers to our health you would have us believe.

    And to return to the thread, if you wouldn`t mind, Holbrook, please accept my apologies for assuming you were a woman-so "Parent to fellow parent" instead.
     
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