Bread S****s in Compost?

Discussion in 'Compost, Fertilisers & Recycling' started by NewbieGreen, Aug 16, 2007.

  1. NewbieGreen

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    What about composting bread? I've read you shouldn't but why? Is it the yeast in it?
     
  2. NewbieGreen

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    I didn't realise scr-aps was a swear word around here [​IMG]
     
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    Such food waste could encourage vermin.
     
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    Newbie, I don't know much about the problems of bread on the compost heap but any that we do put there is quickly taken by the birds.

    Fonzie, this is where the recycling debate comes in. Do you recycle all your food waste and take the chance of attracting vermin or do you dump it with your non-recyclables?

    We are fortunate to live in a country area but the presence of vermin is always part of the country scene. All our food waste and peelings go on the compost heap. Luckily it is at the bottom of a long garden and since we have been doing it (many years) we have not suffered with mice or rats in out loft. Presumably they stick to the bottom of the garden but I have not seen any evidence of them being there. I have seen a fox looking on the compost heap and there are always birds, mainly magpies and the like, checking it out.

    I suppose it depends on where you live and what type of waste you have.
     
  5. geoffhandley

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    In our area all food waste can go into the wheeled green bin. They recommend that we wrap it in newspaper first. i understand that the recyclable stuff, that can include cardboard, is composted using worms.
    There used to be a digester available for gardens. It was to be sited in sun and had a heavy duty mesh base that mice or rats could not gnaw through. It was not to produce compost but decomposed cooked food waste into a liquid that seeped into the ground, so reducing its disposal in landfill.
    I don't give bread to birds. I read somewhere that it expands in the crop. Instead I buy them wild bird seed, peanuts and fat balls and the greedy beggars go through �£s and �£s worth every week.
     
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    Our birds get through 20kg of seed every six months!!! :eek: It is worth it just to see the lovely birds close up. [​IMG]

    We don't have a green wheeled bin and most people in our village eitehr make their own compost or recycle green waste into the lorry that comes round every Sunday. We try to compost nearly everything but take the stuff that doesn't compost well and the nasty weeds to the lorry.
     
  7. NewbieGreen

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    The little fellers in your avater is what takes all my birdseed [​IMG] I do enjoy watching them though none the less, even though they are grey.
     
  8. geoffhandley

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    You need to watch the little b******s. I did not think we had the grey squirrels in the garden but them my wife spotted them early in the morning. All my feeders got ripped apart. Now they all have to be metal. Now if I had red ones vsiting the garden like they have in Formby I would be providing special feeders.
     
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    I,m so jealous of you all having vans and green bins. Our council is not so enlightened - however I dont eat wheat meat or dairy so all my scaps go on the heap which is a new idea -become Vegan -good for your compost heap!
    Also leave some nice red hair dye out for those poor miscoloured squirrels, so they can come up to scratch.
     
  10. Karen D

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    Going back to the original problem of what to do with your leftover bread s****s, I personally wouldn't put bread on our compost heap, but I would put it in our Can-o-Worms. The worms will also eat pasta, rice and other cooked food s****s - not that we have much of any of these as the dogs tend to get any leftovers.
     
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    I am not an expert, but I cannot see bread doing any harm to the soil...
     
  12. geoffhandley

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    It is not the effect it has on the soil. Being organic it will rot down to nutrients. Its what it will attract while it is rotting down. The only way to dispose of cooked food is either in a worm bin or using a digester which is sealed against rats.
    Leave bread lying around it will attract rats. Some London parks have rat problems because of people leaving bread for the birds. At the school where I work the kids were throwing their sandwiches in the outside litter bins - persumably while they stuffed themselves with crisps, sweet and chocolate instead. Rats and squirrels were dragging the bread out and we had a rat population explosion.
     
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