wild plant id...please? alum?

hi any ideas what these are?





i spotted them on my way home from work the other night, are they a type of arum or am i miles away?

 

Might they be Arum Italicum, aka Lords and Ladies?

 

i thought their leaves (lords and ladies) had stripey leaves?

 

I've noticed a bit of variation in the wild arum regarding leaves, but I agree with Aaron.

 

Yep, Arum italicum.:gnthb:

 

We have them both in the garden here and in Florida, definitely Lords and Ladies. The ones here are nicely marked but the ones in Florida are mainly green with just a wee bit of white.

 

Another one for SG's poisonous garden, blubs are full of starch. Elizabethans used them to stiffen those big puffy collars they were fond of wearing.

 

I read yesterday that Sneezeweed (Helenium) is also poisonous.

 

Ziggy, ninety percent of what we have in our garden is poisonous .... ... but I don't care ... I've always had cats who don't eat my poisonous plants and we certainly don't so we figure we are A-okay .... :yho:

I'll have a quiet word in Aaron's shell-like ear ...

 

Another name for the wild Arum is Jack in the Pulpit! I'm sure there are lots of regional variations.

Chris

 

I seem to remember there's quite a few rude regional variations on a theme as well:hehe:

 

Animals are more sensible than humans I've found! They seem to know what will do them harm and what won't. As an example, I've currently got baby chicks free ranging in the garden and they completely ignore the Euphorbias I have, despite it being at eye level. It only seems to be us thick humans who will put anything into our mouths!

Chickens have been known to self-medicate by eating a small amount of something poisonous in order to 'purge' the system at certain times of the year.

 

fantastic!

mucho gracias

i found these on a bike track that runs straight the middle of liverpool, in one large clump. the track is a bit of a dumping ground so i thought they may have "escaped" from someones garden....

 

I think there is a pretty narrow divide between what is poisonous and what is not. I have been growing a few members of the Solanaceae (potato) family. The family includes many poisonous plants such as Deadly Nightshade and Datura, but also edible ones such as the Tomato. It also includes the Potato, which is generally edible, unless the growing tuber is exposed to sunlight, in which case it goes green and produces the same toxins that you find in the poisonous members of the family.

 

Quite right peter, wouldn't want to go eating rhubarb leaves either.

Found this article about arum lillies, or "dog's dickies" as someone I worked with in Merriott used to call them.

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3862