Best Climbing Roses

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  1. Chockyice

    Chockyice Apprentice Gardener

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    Hi all,

    I am new on here and to gardening but I have recently become extremly fascinated with gardening and especially roses. So I have decided to add some climbing roses to my large garden to give it the wow factor and therefore I need a little help in deciding which climbing roses would be best.

    My garden is a rectangular shape which is approx 40ft long, 30ft wide, and has a 6ft high fence going the whole way around except for where my house is.

    I live in Leeds (north England) but my garden gets the sun all day.

    What I want is 3 different roses to go all the way around my fence. So one down the left side, one down te right, and one across the bottom fence.

    I have already bought a Graham Thomas which is in a very large tub and looks amazing - but this is not for the fence.

    However, I have bought a Penny Lane to go down one side of the fence, but will one be enough for one side or will I require 2/3? As sometimes I read about a rose and it says it will reach 12ft but then you will see a picture of one and it looks like it reached nearly double that, so I am confused!!

    Please see the climbing roses below which I think maybe best for my garden because they look good, have a good fragrance, hardy, and I have read some good reviews about them.

    Could you please let me know which ones you think are the best/your favourite and would look good in my garden or if there any any other climbing roses you think would be ideal please also include?

    Zéphirine Drouhin - bright pink/red, highly scented, 12ft
    Lady Hillingdon Climber - yellow/apricot, good scent, 15ft
    Sombreuil - white/cream, good scent, 12/13ft
    Mme Alfred Carriere - white/cream, highly scented, shade, 20ft
    Iceberg Climber - white/cream, little scent, 12ft
    Cinderella soft pink, good scent, 10-15ft
    Pierre de Ronsard Rose (Eden Rose) - mid pink, little scent, 11ft
    New Dawn - fair pink, average scent, 10-15ft
    Gardeners Glory - yellow, good scent, 10-12ft
    Aloha - pink/purple, highly scented, 7/8ft
    Constance Spry - deep pink, very good scent, once flowering, 12-15ft Ivory Castle Rose - White, good scent, 12ft

    Thank you in advance and I look forward to reading your comments.:thmb:

    Regards,

    Chockyice
     
  2. ClaraLou

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    Hi Chockyice

    Can I add another to the list? 'Compassion', a climber I used to grow and I think Wiseoldowl still does, is a beautiful rose with coppery-pink flowers which would tone with the roses you've already bought. It has a lovely scent.

    If you're planning to cover 40 feet, I'd buy another two 'Penny Lanes' and space the plants equally. Climbing roses vary quite a lot in their vigour and eventually size. Madame Alfred Carriere is a particularly large plant when mature, but as far as I can tell 'Penny Lane' is a bit more restrained in its growth.
     
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    Hi Chockyice If I understand you correctly you would require.:)
    40ft left side =4 Roses
    30ft bottom fence= 3 roses
    40ft right side=4 Roses
     
  4. lollipop

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    Unless of course you use the climbing rose I have which quite frankly must have triffid genes because it is growing like the clappers lol. ( Seagull)

    There is a rose for every occasion-in fact there are probably ten or so tbh.

    What is important to you-scent, colour, repeat flowering etc?

    Clara is spot on with regard to bearing in mind that what one rose does in one garden is no real inication of what it will o in yours.
     
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    Hi Lollipop.

    I grew Seagull once and decided it really ought to be called 'Albatross' - a permanent burden a la Ancient Mariner. Never grow it over a shed, unless it needs demolishing.
     
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    I love roses but certainly do not have the knowledge and experience that Woo and other members have. However that said I have discovered English roses (David Austen) do make lovely climbers. The advantage they don't go daft in that they grow to about 8 -10 feet and have the advantage of flowering always at the bottom so you don't get that legginess you sometimes get with climbers. Just a thought. :)
     
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    Hi Chockyice Some sound advice and Rose knowledge from Lollipop,Claralou and Rhyleysgranny,between them they have covered it all:thmb::)
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    I have erased the Roses that I think are not suitable,for many reasons,some are not suitable against a wall or fence/one is a minature/and one only floweres once/ect:)

    This is only my personal oppinion:)

    Plus "Compassion"

    Mme Alfred Carriere - white/cream, highly scented, shade, 20ft


    Iceberg Climber - white/cream, little scent, 12ft

    Pierre de Ronsard Rose (Eden Rose) - mid pink, little scent, 11ft

    Constance Spry - deep pink, very good scent, once flowering, 12-15ft Ivory Castle Rose - White, good scent, 12ft[/quote]
     
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    It should really come with a warning-it is trying to kill me, and it may succeed the beast has just left a gash in my arm around 7 inches long......................the thing is, the scent is probably the perfect rose scent, so gorgeous. It needs room.

    I am having a good experience with a rose called "the Generous Gardener", pink with a good strong scent.


    There really are too many to choose from.







    My current desire is a rose called Precose. If I could just get a cutting I could make it grow.
     
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    The best climber I ever had was Morning Jewel.
    It's pink, beautifully scented and seemed to flower all summer long. The weather never bothered it and it was disease free.
    And it covers a lot of space.
     
  10. Chockyice

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    Thank you all for you comments, much appreciated!!

    I have just been to my local garden centre and the two climbers which appealed to me the most were Compassion (suggested by ClaraLou, many thanks) and Arthur Bell.

    I thought both their fragrances were absolutely amazing and the only problem was that they were the same colours as my Graham Thomas and Penny Lane. For that reason only I did not buy them as I needed more time to think about it.

    WOO - Thank you for narrowing down my long list but could you please give me the reasons as to why you removed the following roses:

    Zéphirine Drouhin - bright pink/red, highly scented, 12ft
    Lady Hillingdon Climber - yellow/apricot, good scent, 15ft
    Sombreuil - white/cream, good scent, 12/13ft

    because these were at the top of my list and the ones I was more than likely going to buy.

    ps. Fragrance is at the top of my list when deciding on a Rose.

    Thanks,

    Chockyice
     
  11. Alice

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    Zephrine Drouhin is a lovely rose and it will do well north facing which most roses won't.
    It has a lovely scent and as a bonus it's thornless.
     
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    Hi Chockyice yes certainly:)In the end it is your choice of what Climbing Roses you Purchase,I have to be very careful when someone asks advice ,as you know I love all Roses and they are all beautiful,but its Horses for courses with me,Soil ,Site, scent,colour,foliage,:)

    1.Lady Hillingdon
    Blooms are deep apricot/That fade in the Sun/Sparse Foliage/Thin Canes/Takes a long time to establish:)

    2.Sombreuil
    Blooms are flat,quilled and quarted/Old Rose style/And I consider it to be a very gappy climber not close knit:)

    3.Zephirine Drouhin
    IMHO is best for an arch or pergola the ones i have seen when used for a wall or Fence seem prone to Blackspot and mildew:)
     
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    I have to agree with Woo about Zepherine Drouhin-prone to fungal disease, make sure it gets plenty of good air circulation.
     
  14. Chockyice

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    Thank you all for sharing your vast knowledge.

    I think I shall opt for Mme Alfred Carriere & Compassion to go with the Penny Lane I have already bought.

    Just one last question - the garden centre near me only has a limited choice of roses so I was going to order them on-line. Who would you recommend as I have noticed there are quite a few?

    Many thanks,

    Chockyice
     
  15. ClaraLou

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    Totally agree with Woo and Lollipop - Zephirine Drouhin is disease prone. Disease rarely kills roses but you have to keep spraying to keep susceptible plants looking good. Also, it is a vivid magenta, which can be a little hard on the eye, depending on what you intend to grow near it. As Woo says, Lady Hillingdon is a bit of a cripple. A nice one, but needs lots of TLC to get established.

    If you go for Mme Alfred Carriere, which is a beautiful, highly perfumed rose which is not fussy about aspect, be aware that it is a large, vigorous rose which takes up a quite lot of space when fully grown and will need sturdy support.

    There are many places which offer roses online. Traditionally they're despatched as bare root plants in the autumn, although container grown roses are also offered by some suppliers.

    Try David Austin Roses for a wonderful selection of roses, many of which look like sumptuous old-fashioned varieties, but have the colour, ability to repeat flower and disease resistance of modern plants. www.davidaustinroses.com.

    Peter Beales specialises in classic roses:-

    http://www.classicroses.co.uk/

    Harkness is a long established firm based in Herts, which has developed its own varieties for many years:-

    http://www.roses.co.uk/

    And then there is Apuldrum Roses:-

    http://www.apuldramroses.co.uk/

    All these firms will send you a paper catalogue, should you prefer to browse from a booklet rather than online.
     
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