two plants for ID please

The first plant is about 4 foot now. I am thinking now that is going to turn out to be a weed
The second are lovely but I don't know what it is .

 

First is hard to see but could be Ragwort a weed yes but also food plant for the beautiful Cinibar Moth

Second is a Penstemon of some variety, a beautiful, long flowering plant. hardy in most winters but really suffered last year and many were lost. Also available in lots of varieties and colours

 

Could be a ragwort yes Lovage. If it is, its illegal to let it set seed. It is full of toxins, which is why i don't eat Cinibar moth caterpillars any more.

 

Here is a better photo. The top flower heads do look like ragwort, but rest of the plant is much bigger and bushier than any ragwort plant I've seen before. It should be flowering soon so I'll come back with more photos if needed.
thanks for the id .

 

It`s NOT ragwort, I just can`t remember what it IS at the moment.:gnthb:

 

OK I will rip it out tommorrow. I am in France and don't know if there are any rules and regs about how to dispose of this plant. I can't burn it. Can I just stick it in my composter?
Sorry my post crossed with daitheplant.if it's not ragwort I'll keep it a bit longer, if it is I'll dig it up.:lollol:

 

If it`s not flowering or seeding, rip it out, then leave it on the ground until it dies.:gnthb:

 

I don't think its Ragwort - its seems too bushy for that. It looks more like an Artemesia to me. Does it smell when you crush the leaves?

 

No it didn't smell of anything and I wore gloves to be on the safe side! OK I have found a smaller plant in the verge near my house and its ragwort. I think mine looks heathier etc because it has grown very close to some well rotted manure!
So I will get it out and dispose of it sensibly. Thank you to all

 

Not 100% but could it be Tansy?

 

That did go thru my head too Dai. I think tansy would be slightly greener though, plus it didn't smell.

 

That`s true Ziggy.