I want a Wisteri

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  1. Doghouse Riley

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    Hmm..

    I've just checked the receipt for the wisteria. (I keep these as Bent's give a five year guarantee on hardy plants).

    It was a Wisteria Sinensis and it was £59.99.

    Much more than I remembered!

    It had several stems which were wrapped around each other, I managed to straighten it out.

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    You can just about see it in this photo I took a couple of weeks ago. We left one of the three dead trunks of the white wisteria as we've a jasmine growing up it now. The wisteria is growing up the pergola support post behind it and it's doing well. I expect it will reach half way across the pergola by the spring of next year. The ends will die off a bit in the winter, I've limited it to two "strands" at the top at the moment, I'll encourage a couple of side shoots from each of these once it's established, so that it will eventually cover the depth of the pergola which is around four feet.

    This is the one from Worsley, it was purchased in 2006, hiding behind that pear tree in a bucket. I let it grow to the top of the tree stump which is seven feet high then trained several branches back down using wires, but let the top bush out a bit. Eventually I'll be able to remove all the wires and you won't see those four branches. It flowers very well each year.

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  2. grab

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    Having successfully wisterified a wall on our last house, sinensis is the type you want. Ours was a floribunda macrophylla - spectacular flower-heads, but no scent at all.
     
  3. waqas

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    I get confused when you talk about removing the side shoots, cuting it back to X buds and straightening the branches. I need to read more i thinks, when I have one, I am sure it would make more sense.

    I have narrowed the search down to the following 4 Wisteria floribunda's:
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    I like #2 & #4
     
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    We bought two of the "pink" ones, about ten years ago one of which we put in a pot next to the front door. It grew well up the trellis and across between the top of the door and the window above, but despite an abundance of foliage and correct pruning and feeding it never flowered. It may be that it didn't like the pot.
    So last year I got rid of it and replaced it with this Albertine rose, which I'm training to climb both the trellis and a wire supported by eyes screwed into the wall just below the bay window, it seems very happy there.

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    The other, bought at the same time, we still have in the corner of a small bed on the other side of the patio against the fence between the house and garage in the corner by the kitchen wall. The original intention to have it on one side of the pergola and the white one on the other. But the white one died so we've ended up with nothing at the moment!
    That pink one too has done nothing, but it isn't doing any harm there so we're leaving it. It has reached the top of the eight foot fence and is now starting growing round the side of the house.
     
  5. waqas

    waqas Gardener

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    Well I want to plant the Wasteria on the wall where the bins are and then trail one stem to go left and the other right over the games/study room

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    Also does anyone know what this plant is? My dad just picked up from the garden centre with no label.

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  6. Victoria

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    It's a Mandeville, waqas, also sometimes called a Dipladena. I have about a dozen of them. This red one is not really a climber as the pinks and whites, tends to be shrubby.
     
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    That's a good idea.

    You could screw an "L shaped" shelf bracket into the wall hard up against the underside of the facia board either side of the centre window and one each side of the end windows to take the weight as it matured, running the branches over the top of each and losely attaching the branch to allow for continued growth. Over time you'd not even see the brackets. You'd still be able to get at the facia board if it needed repainting.


    I see you have one of those "new fangled washing lines."

    We're still on an old fashioned tumble dryer here, it's my wife's decision, much to my dismay and leccy costs!
     
  8. waqas

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    A fangled washing line? I don’t know what fangled is lol... As for the washing line, its a very old one, just tied to hooks permanently, old fashion I know but that’s the best way.

    As for the brackets, I assume when the wisteria grows up it would be impossible to paint the wood panel due to its position and hard stems.


    Victoria is the
    Mandeville hardy, how heigh can it get and what months does it flower? shouls i dead head to make it flower more? Sorry for the questions but i did a google and crocus search and could not get any info.
     
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    I don't think the Mandevillea will be hardy with you. They are normally a conservatory plant in the UK. Mine here (in Algarve) started blooming last month and will go till frost (should be have any).

    Here is a link for you ...

    http://www.floridata.com/ref/M/mandev.cfm

    I have guests about to arrive for a couple of hours so I'll put some pics of mine up later.
     
  10. waqas

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    No not at all, that's why I suggested attaching loosely, the branches are softish wood and quite pliable, it would be just be a matter of untying it each time and sliding it forwards, or even let it hang between two other brackets whilst you did your painting above each bracket.

    The big wisteria on the pegola next to our pool, was getting too heavy for the 3" X 2" construction three years ago, so I completely rebuilt it out of 4" X 4" posts and bearers and 4" X 2" cross pieces. I supported the whole thing on long 3" X 2" props whilst I worked in the new pergola around them. It suffered quite a bit of pulling, pushing and bending with no ill effects.
     
  12. waqas

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    OK thanks, ill go to homebase tomorrow to see if I can get one.
     
  13. Victoria

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    Okay, by these photos you can see they are shrub-like and not climbers ...

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  14. Karl-D

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    Can anybody tell me how good Chinese Wisteria - Wisteria Sinensis is?
    I would love this on the front of the house, which it south facing and Im in Cornwall so don't tend to have really bad winters.

    Chinese Wisteria - Wisteria Sinensis
    Fabulously fragrant, pea-like, lavender-blue flowers which hang majestically from bare stems between May and June. This is a brilliant, twining, deciduous climber that’s renowned for its superior fragrance and flower colour. Ideal for training over a strong pergola, archway or arbour, it’s resistant to pests and diseases and will withstand the toughest of winters. Its twisting stems also make it a great choice for scrambling through large trees, where the stems will wrap themselves around the trunk producing a fabulous, colourful display during the summer. Fresh green foliage starts to emerge in mid-summer, just as the flowers are starting to fade. A spectacular, maintenance-free climber that’s perfect for the most modern to the most traditional of gardens.

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    Position: Full sun
    Soil: Any reasonably fertile, well-drained soil
    Rate of Growth: Fast
    Flowering Period: May to June
    Flower Colour: Bluish-lilac
    Other Features: It’s renouned for its superior fragrance and bears velvety-green seed-pods which appear after the flowers.
    Hardiness: Fully hardy
    Garden Care: Lateral shoots should be tied in during the first growing season to help the plant establish itself. It’s also beneficial to cut back sub-lateral shoots to two or three buds to encourage a strong growth habit. Cut back laterals by one third and sub-laterals by two or three buds during the first winter.
    Eventual Height: 9m
    Eventual Spread: 5m
     
  15. waqas

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    Vic the last photo look lovely,what is it growing out off? looks like a vase.
     
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