chicken poo!!!!

Any links with poultry manure pellets and Hn51....whatever it is Bird Flu??????????? :eek: :eek: :confused:

 

www.defra.gov.uk

 

I cannot find any mention of Poultry manure pelets on the Defra site. However since the ones you would be buying now came from at the earliest last years birds when there was no case of the disease in Britain, then there is no problem. There indeed would only be a problem if the pellets were made from the droppings of infected birds and again, until there are cases of the disease in British birds I think you would be safe. Also from my reading of the vectoring of the illness from birds to humans, you actually need to breathe in the dust from droppings from infected birds. Personally I would worry more about the conditions in which hens have to be kept to accumulate enough droppings for it to be worthwhile collecting, composting, pelleting, packaging and selling their droppings.

 

I agree with Palustris, any pellets bought now or in shops should be safe. As far as I can make out the virus dies if the poo is dried. Have the containers any country of origin info., I wonder?
Personally I wouldn't buy pelleted chicken manure as, like Palustris, I would think it came from Battery type enclosures. I used to keep a few chickens and that was a different matter!

 

Dalbuie - I love your concise answer! But I have to agree with Liz and Palustris - I don't see there's likely to be any problem with the dried pellets, as they're old, and treated to the nth degree - but I don't use them myself anyway! I try to be as organic as is practical - but not always. Sometimes there isn't a good organic answer to things.

 

Bird flu is a virus. Generally viruses don't survive very long in dry conditions, maybe a few days, week at the most.

You may be thinking of spore making bacteria which are hazardous as they can live in the earth for 10-15 years - Chlostridium Tetanii being of most concern to gardeners - causes tetanus. Make sure your jabs are up to date! I once nursed a man that got tetanus after sustaining a scratch from his horse manure fed roses. He hadn't had his jab. He died.

 

Doc's advice to me was that most adults have had enough jabs and shouldn't need any more, and I know someone who had an allergic reaction when he had a jab, and was told it was because he'd had too many - SO, I'd say - always check with your GP first.

 

French local chicken sales are massively down and some countries have banned French poultry products. They were very quick to ban our meat and kept the ban in place until the last minute. Obviously boosting their own farming production. I always wonder about a dangerous virus and how safe is expert opinion. I have found Expert opinion often changes its mind. I'm having chicken for dinner this evening [local free range]

 

When I tried to get a tetanus booster my GP said I couldn't have one. He said only farmers and people that work with animals can have them now days.

 

As I recall, thats pretty standard, though no doubt you could arrange for it privately - its a rare infection - in many years in an acute hospital, I have never heard of one case. It used to be a booster every five years - but that said tetanus is contracted by a deep puncture wound - rather than cuts etc. Clostridium is an anaerobic organism, i.e. it doesn't like air - in A/E it is standard to check tetanus status of anyone attending with a potentially contaminated wound - particularly farmers and gardeners - and treat accordingly.

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we have a bottle cut---ra on the sink side
which we use every time been in garden anti-bacterial hand hygiene gel kills 99.99of germs
in 15 seconds sot got after read of young man
dieing afer scratching his arm on a rose make
grandkids use it alot.take into hospital alsowhen needto go