Help! Onions are forming offsets. Why?

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  1. Dave W

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    I've never encountered this before, my onions have all formed offsets. Most have formed 3 and a couple 4. They are Sturon planted from sets and were started in my polytunnel in February.
    They have been outside now for a while and are growing in a polystyrene fish box (can't grow them in the ground due to white rot).
    I thought at first that maybe I'd been sold shallots in error but the leaves are much bigger than shallots and shallots form more offsets.

    Anyone have any idea what may have caused this?

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  2. pete

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    I dont think you have sturon Dave, surely they must be something different?

    Your right they dont look like shallots either.

    Will be interesting to see how they turn out.
     
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    I always grow Sturon from sets and have never seen anything like that. As it's all of them doing it all I can think is the same as pete, maybe the sets were not labelled correctly.
     
  4. Dave W

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    It's really weird. They must be some form of onion I'm sure. They seemed to be growing normally until a few weeks ago and apart from the offsets they seem pretty healthy plants. Oh well looks like I'll not be stringing nice big onions this autumn!:(
     
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    From what I have read, in the Hessayon books, it could be down to planting at the wrong time, too much dry weather, or poor soil?
     
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    You may well be right regarding dry weather, we went away for a few days and the box they are growing in was pretty dry and they were starting to go a bit limp when we got back due to junior gardener forgetting to water them!
     
  7. Phil A

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    They look like tree onions to me, you'll soon know if they start forming bulbs where the flowers should be.
     
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    Yep, they look exactly like my tree onions (apparently also known as lazy onions as they grow to knee high then you can just pick them) which my neighbour gave me (although she said they were welsh onions which I think are similar ?)
    As Ziggy says I guess you'll soon know if they form bulbs - they look nice and healthy though !
     
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    :scratch: Guess what Dave, I am growing sturon up at the farm & when I looked I had 3 that have formed offsets like yours.. I didn't have my camera with me but will tomorrow.. :thumb:
     
  10. Phil A

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    :tnp:Ahh, could be the weather, or a problem at the sett production stage then. Look forward to the outcome of this one.
     
  11. theplantman

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    interesting .... yeah some sort of shock/damage to the young growing tip may cause several new growing buds to form I suppose, or perhaps as you say a problem with set production.....
     
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    Hi plantman & Ziggy, I have been wondering if it is caused by something happening at the set production stage.. :scratch: Still intriguing though... These are a couple of mine Dave..

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    Hello Frank here
    Three years ago purchased Onion Rose Roscoff ( expensive ) from supermarket in Brittany
    Stored well but 3 started sprouting- so planted in the ground
    All 3 then exhibited offsets but no progression to seed so like previously mentioned thought they must have been shallot’s ( but they did not look like shallots
    2023 went to Brittany and visited la Maison Quemener , family concern of specialist onion growers for many years ( father was an “onion Jonny “)
    Stored in a cool environment but 8 sprouted so planted in ground
    Of the 8 - 4 progressed to seed (as expected) but remaining produced offsets - all the 8 had been exposed to the same storage / growing environment
    I have searched but can’t find any reference to this duality of reproduction - so it’s still?
    Maison Quemener is within 300m of Roscoff port so if passing through and want to purchase onions ( €1.20 a kg in 2024 - ) look them up on the internet and give them a call - daughter speaks perfect English
    Purchased 60kg this year for friends and family
    Next visit will see if they can solve the mystery
     
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    Onions are capable of reproducing both asexually and sexually , according to conditions, especially diurnal chilling.
    There is copious information by Googling, such as this:
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...0QFnoECC8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw1RLafPcTZ-Vlze6odmqRDF
     
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    Thank you for the information and channels to look further
     
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