Climbers ID?

Ive got a warm and sunny corner and these climbers have been doing well in containers- but what are they?

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Roughly 3metres tall so far and has to be tied in.
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Wider shot to show growing habit.




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Turn your head 90degrees to the RIGHT to make the most of this one.

Its 4 metres tall and reaching for the skies. Ive put up a neat support system of vine eyes and wire. It scrambles up by itself. Five lobbed leaves with white veining. A creeper of some kind?

 

Hi Melinda

Pretty sure (1) is Jasminium stephanense

(2) looks like Virginia Creeper, Parthenocissus quinquefolia.

 

Wavering now ... (1) could be Jasminium beesianum, which has darker flowers than stephanense. Yep. Definitely almost maybe sure.

 

Ooh! Aren't you clever! Definately looks like the jasminium beesianum!

Im familiar with parthenocissus quinqefolia and Im pretty sure it isnt that variety... (Im actually training a Beverly Brook over the gable end of house).

These leaves are smaller, thicker and more leathery to the touch. The white veining was more pronounced earlier in the year, and the leaves had a much redder tinge if that helps with the ID.

 

Oh, I am so jealous of you Melinda with the Jasminium beesianum ...someone (was it PeterS?) sent me a cutting some years ago but I couldn't get it going here ... such a beauty!

 

It fills a 2 metre trough and has layered and rooted itself many, many times along the entire length.
I regularly hack bits off for friends and I'd be happy to hack off a bit and pop it in the post for you to try again?

It grows really well and is a pleasure to walk past.

 

I would love to try again, Melinda ... I have PMd you. :luv:

 

I'm pretty sure the second one is Parthenocissus henryana Melinda, Chinese virginia creeper. I've just planted one in a pot for a client in London. I chose it because it's not as vigorous as the other Parthenocissi and it's fairly happy on a north facing wall.

Chris

 

Thank you very much for the ID

I did a plant swap at a spring fayre and came back with allsorts, mostly unlabelled.

 

Was taken by this very pretty clematis today, does anyone know which one it is?

 

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It could be " The President ":gnthb:

 

Thanks Dai,

Ive googled carefully, and Im pretty sure that The President is more purple than this variety.

Im looking through a clematis catalogue and I cant find it! :(

 

The trouble with trying to name a clematis from a photo is that the colours are quite variable. For instance, photos of 'Nelly Moser' show her as being pale pink with bright pink pyjama-stripe bars across the middle of each petal. If she's grown in bright sunlight, however, she often looks a rather faded greyish white with hardly any pattern at all. A bit like underpants which have been through the wash once too often. Anyway, I digress.

The colour of the variety you've photographed (and it is a lovely one) might not be constant but the habit will be. The flowers on your photo look as if they are semi-double (there's an extra frill of petals in the middle) and the outer petals fold back on themselves slightly. There's a big boss of golden anthers in the middle as well. It's obviously one of the early summer flowering varieties rather than a viticella, as these bloom later in the year. This narrows things down a bit but I still haven't found anything which quite fits the bill.

Clematis 'North Star' comes pretty close (see thumbnail).

 

Maybe you could chat up the owner of the clematis and beg a few cuttings? The summer flowering varieties are not as easy to root as the montanas but it's certainly worth a go. Here are some hints I've cribbed off the web. Unfortunately the diagrams didn't copy but I'm sure you'll get the gist:

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Cuttings should be taken in June from stems grown that year (not woody stems grown the previous season), but avoid the very soft part of the stem at the top end. The cuttings described below are often referred to as 'internodal' cuttings (taken between two leaf joints).


STEP 1
Cut the main stem about 5cm (2in) below a leaf joint - use a clean, sharp knife to avoid crushing the stem when cutting.

STEP 2
Cut the main stem as near as possible just above the leaf joint. See diagram to the left to illustrate the cutting.

STEP 3
Cut away the leaves and stalk from one side of the stem and trim off any excess leaves from the other side so that only two leaves remain.
This trimming process will reduce loss of water through the leaves of the cutting.



Having created the clematis cutting, dip the base of the cutting into hormone rooting powder (to help the cutting produce roots), and insert it into a small pot filled with potting compost. Don't force the cutting into the compost - make a small hole first, place the cutting in the hole and gently firm the compost round the stem.

The cutting should be placed in the compost so that all of the main stem is covered. Only the very top of the stem and the leaf and stalk should be above the compost. Water well (preferably from the base) then label and date the cutting.

To avoid the cutting loosing too much water place it in a covered propagator, or cover the pot with a plastic bag. Place the covered cutting in a light protected place but not one exposed to direct sunlight.

Plants grown this way will be ready for planting out after a year (re-pot into larger pots as the roots fill the pot) and will flower after another year.