capital punishment or not

But Bush`s suppositary did it in our name ( Great Britain ). David

 

Sorry, I realise this is a serious thread but I'm rolling on the floor at that typo.

 

Ah, you mean our armed forces David, people???

Bush did not do it our name, we just went along for the ride, good old tone thought it was a good idea at the time. Just to prove that we are still a world power,......... which we aint.

 

Bush didn`t do it in our name, our Tone did it in our name, and if they are not people what are they? David.

 

Special people

 

I am hazarding a guess its not to fund cancer research.

 

I do agree with daitheplant. It seems very odd that we are prepared to kill hundreds of thousands of relatively innocent people but get very upset at killing guilty people.

 

Hmm. Interesting one, this one. Democracy and the legal system! As has been pointed out before. You can't trust the "system" to provide the "correct" result. Innocent people can be hung.
Not even thinking about the financial aspects but if there was Capital Punishment, maybe we wouldn't get so many Knife and gun crimes.
As regards the legallity of war and it not being "our" fault. Well, if you buy into our system of laws(and they get quoted many times on site) and the way they are made and if you vote. (For anyone). Then you are agreeing to everything the G'vnt does. I find this very uncomfortable to explain to the people of other countries and I'm not sure I'm happy with it myself.
So what do we do, guys.

 

We didn't go along for the ride. The point is two individuals made the decision to declare a state of war. It was not a democratic process and they were prepared to sacrifice thousands of lives for their own personal interests.
I am no fan of Brown but at least he has said that in future it will be the decision of parliament
I think David's typo was very appropriate considering what Bush has done to our armed forces...and his own of course and the Iraqui civilians. It must have been a freudian slip!

 

They have Capital Punishment in the USA but they still shoot each other like there's no tomorrow.

 

Hi. Geoff no row's this time I promise. The point I was making, was that we all vote and it's not just a vote for the Party of our choice, it's the fact that we vote. We're saying that we agree with the system. So, as much as we dislike what they do in our name, we are agreeing to the system. Or am I just, still, a child of the '60's?

 

Well, I'm going to bed, got the schoolrun, tommorrow. Night, night.

 

As most of you will know politicians promise us so much to win the elections and most of the time fails to come up with the goods and do what they like not what we want...'we' don't matter to them most of 'them' are just power hungry fat cats.

Cajary there's nothing wrong with being a child of the 60's I'm one too.....does that make us peace loving hippies? :D
Helen.xxx.

 

Unfortunately when I last voted we didn't have a hang em high party or they would have got my vote, some of the attrocities committed today deserve the death penalty, with the latest dna techniques it would be rare to make a mistake and if we voted this in then we would have to live with any mistakes there would be far less than there is at the moment when they let killers out to kill again, there's no deterent at all, one glimmer of hope one of the top judges yesterday handed out a jail sentence yesterday instead of a fine to an habitual offender he said this namby pamby approach by the government has gone too far, lets hope they all see sense. (rant over)

 

Unless you are prepared to stand there and inject the lethal dose yourself, calmly without emotion and with a just mind, you have no business expecting a government employee to do it on your behalf. You are talking about ending someones life forever, thats it finito, and then live yourself with the consequences, feelings and imagery that will never leave you. Take it from someone that has seen swift justice, it never leaves you. The crime still happened, whats changed is that as an individual, and as a country, you have lost the part of you that made you better than the person that commited the offence.

We live in a sh1tty world where people are generally pretty sh1tty to eachother, talking about 'the death penalty' is for the most part an emotional discussion, with its root in revenge rather than justice, which for my money is morally wrong regardless of the crime.

As for the war, not really part of the OP's point, but if you want to save money why not reduce the armed services ? Not sure they would choose redundancy over being sent on tour? I don't think the government planned to get people killed but its kind of expected that if you join the army you will at some point be expected to protect the interests of the UK. And guess what you might get killed !

There are lots of ways to find fault with the system and create cases as to why the government are axe wealding murders, but, if we ourselves express restraint, show compasion and forgiveness than maybe over time this will create nicer communities rather than ones based on the threat of death.

That being said, touch my car and I will behead you without trial !