Help! Newly turfed lawn not establishing (with pic)

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  1. domp

    domp Apprentice Gardener

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    Moved in to a new house last July. Lawn was newly turfed and set down fine. Now this summer the left hand side which does not get as nearly as much sun is patchy at best. The right side is fine (and thriving). I am watering and feeding both sides well. Is the left side becoming waterlogged after not getting the sun? The garden slopes towards the camera.

    I'm at a bit of a loss so any pointers would be massively appreciated

    Dom

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  2. pete

    pete Growing a bit of this and a bit of that....

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    Just looks a bit thin to me, unless your living in North Africa, I doubt any watering would have been necessary this year as yet.
    Think I would just mow regularly and see what happens.

    Was it layed on a decent top soil?
     
  3. domp

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    Thanks - no I'm in the UK

    Will back off on the watering!
     
  4. Doghouse Riley

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    This might not apply here, but there's "turf and turf."

    Most garden centres buy it by the pallet load. This could be a couple of days in transit and then be sitting for a number of days in hot sun at a garden centre or B&Q for a few days. So when I've wanted turf I've tried to find out the delivery day and arrive on that day to get some "fresh" rolls. I've also seen some which is a bit thin on density of grass. Could this be the case here?
    When laying turf I always "rough up" the underside as it's cut mechanically and usually very smooth. I also make sure if I'm replacing an area in the lawn I "rough up" the base before laying, walk all over the area and then hammer the edges down with a lump hammer with a short length of 3" X 2" and still sometimes the odd piece doesn't take. Coincidently I had to go to B&Q this morning for a roll for a small piece as I'd caught a small piece with my scarifier this morning.
    The full run of about four rolls adjacent to my new block pavers which separate the lawn from the border, was laid a week before this photo was taken last week.
    It's doing very well It's been watered most days and has had some lawn food. It was £2.58 a roll in B&Q.
    The density of the grass is very good.

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  5. Marley Farley

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    Hi domp, not exactly sure when you laid the lawn but you could be over watering & over feeding.... Plus a combination of being in the shade & cool.. Either way you will not get much growth.. :scratch: Applying too much water can cause the soil to become saturated or soggy. If this condition persists for a couple of weeks in cool weather or for only a few days in hot weather, the grass will suffocate. Turf flooded by water cannot breathe, and turf must breathe to live. In addition, when the turf is flooded with water, disease can develop and kill the turf. It is important to realise that flooded turf does not mean the entire turf must be underwater. All that needs to be underwater are those parts of the turf in the soil. Roots must have oxygen to breathe, but roots must also have water to absorb fertiliser. Therefore, you must balance the amount of water and oxygen in your turf soil. This is easier than you might think.. I would lay off for a while if I wa you, especially as it has turned cool & wet again....
    Normally the routine for watering new turf if during the 1st year as it establishes itself... Once into it's 2nd year it shoukdn't need watering really if it git it's roots down... These are the norm rules to follow though new turf may require watering twice a day for the first week, then 2-3 times a week, then, after 3-6 weeks, once a week. Once your turf is established, it is best to water it well before noon, so it will dry off before evening. During the spring and autumn, the turf will require much less water than the summer, and during the winter the turf does not need to be watered at all. Once established into 2nd yearbyou shoudn't need to water as grass is tough stuff..
     
  6. Doghouse Riley

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    There's a fine line between too little and too much water.
    What you need to do is to encourage the roots of the new grass to go down looking for water, but at the same time preventing the turf from drying out. In my garden as is the surrounding area, the soil is very sandy being on the "alluvial plain" of the Mersey Valley, so it drains very rapidly.
     
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    :wink: Try gently lifting a couple of edges of turf.. If rooted it will not lift... Therefore you do not need to water any more & I would feed once a month if in desperate state then domp......
    As I have already said too much water is a problem as is too much feed..... You will get black patches with too much food as well........ :wink:
     
  8. busybee

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    Q: Part of my lawn is in heavy shade. How can I keep grass growing there?
    A: Grass does not like heavy shade, and grows tall and thin in lighter shade. It will help to cut the shaded grass longer (but just as frequently) than grass that lies in full sun. You can also help the shaded grass by feeding it more regularly. Unfortunately, in the worst areas, the only real solution is to returf or reseed regularly or find an alternative to natural grass.


    I found this on a website as i'm laying my new lawn tomorrow and trying to find all the help i can get (i'm a bit scared! :hehe:)
    Hope you get your's sorted out!
     
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