HEDGE again!

Discussion in 'General Gardening Discussion' started by Victoria Plum, Feb 21, 2011.

  1. Spruce

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    Go for red robin so much tougher and grows quickly



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  2. Victoria Plum

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    Thanks spruce.

    Does red robin vary in colour? I've seen some quite raspberry coloured ones and some orangey. I guess it could be soil.

    How high will it grow?

    I thought choisya might compliment it. Still need more shrubs too
     
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    Hi Victoria, you mentioned Choisya as being a choice. They are lovely shrubs with sweet smelling blossom that you can smell yards away. I got one over 20 years old, still going strong. it's about 5' in height and about 7' in width. The problem is it might be a bit too open in nature for your privacy purposes, and the branches tend to get a bit brittle with age. Otherwise a lovely Shrub! I also have a Garrya [James Roof] which is 6' in height and about 5 in width, it's evergreen and in Spring is covered in light grey tassels which move with the wind, you might want to consider that.
     
  4. Phil A

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    Going back to the trampoline idea.

    Mount a fake CCTV camera pointed straight at them plus a halogen with a motion sensor that switches on everytime they walk into their living room.:heehee:
     
  5. Victoria Plum

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    Have just looked up the Garrya [James Roof] Armandii and it looks beautiful. I've added it to my list.

    Ziggy I love the motion light idea, a very different approach to this problem! You sound formidable in the nicest sense!
     
  6. Phil A

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    We had an industrial unit at the back of our house, they installed a motion sensor halogen that shone into our bedroom everytime a owl flew past.

    I put my own up aimed at them, they removed theirs after a few days.
     
  7. Victoria Plum

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    Yeah, see, if I was a bit more like 'Long Distance Clara' (anyone remember her?) I might be able to just fling up the odd sensor light.

    Unfortunately my husband, as lovely as he is, needs a firework to aim him in the right direction :D
     
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    My Garrya elliptica (is that same / similar?) get knocked back fairly by a hard winter.
     
  9. Victoria Plum

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    Hmmm... so maybe not one to rely on for privacy?
     
  10. Phil A

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    :D I am live and let live till they interfere with me. Then I make Desert Storm seem like a Day out in the park with toddlers.

    Have used the verbal equivalent of Daisy Cutters on a firm phoning me from Manchester today.

    0161 6567756

    Please, all of you that have free calls to land lines, phone these guys up and try to sell them something, see how they like it.:DOH:
     
  11. clueless1

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    I hate to say it, but if you've already told the neighbours your wishes and they cut the hedge lower than you'd like anyway, then I suspect anything you grow will also get cut when you're not looking. Including anything growing on a trellis where the vines protrude more than a micrometre onto their side.

    That said, I'm of the opinion that it is usually possible to work it out without a battle. Maybe they want more sun, and a more open aspect, and are not really being nosey. Is it possible that both sides can have what you want, eg. have the hedge higher at some points so they can't see in to the bits of the garden you use the most, while still keeping other bits more open?

    If a peaceful solution can't be found, then I support the 'taste of their own medicine' methods, but only mildly at first, and always interspersed with carefully worded chats. The worst possible outcome is that you end up considering each other to be the neighbours from hell.
    I think I'd rather be in operation Desert Storm, with Storming Norman Schwarzcopf than spend a whole day in a park full of toddlers. Don't get me wrong, I love kids, and have a toddler myself, but one two year old is plenty enough to exhaust you, head butt you in the goolies, yank your ears and nose off, drag you back to your feet just because you've tried in vain to take a 30 second rest. I don't think I could survive a whole day with a whole park full of them:)
     
  12. Victoria Plum

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    Well Clueless1, if it helps understand their mentality we had music again last night, loud enough to hear through two walls and a closed door. We've done the 'going round' and dropping in a letter, so we've decided today we're off to the landlords agent. Going to also take a photo of the hedge with me as it was when we moved in and show them how much the height has been reduced. Fingers crossed for a good response, they are very strict with their tennants I've heard, let's hope that applies to noise as well.

    I would love a peaceful solution, but unreasonable people don't compromise!

    Noise has been gradually creeping up and it looks like we're back to square one. Not for the want of trying, I've even given them some of our hens lovely fresh eggs!

    I don't feel confident in confrontation, I worry about the bad feeling and the atmosphere. And what they'll do in response of course. But we've decided try to be really strong, and not hide away. I'm going to get out in my garden this weekend regardless and just ignore them. I need a bit of your steely determination Zig!

    In regards to sun light they get the sun from the other side and the back of garden. It was perfectly manageable and easily reacheable how it was.

    The new shrubs will be completely on our side, so if he touched them I'd call the police!
     
  13. Phil A

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    Hmm, noise problems too.

    Now what would I do in that situation, theorectically.

    You need an A.M. Citizens band radio with a burner on the transmitter.

    Shut down all your computers and electronic equipment, in fact, if you can put them in a shed or round your folks house that would be safer.

    Wait till you hear the music coming thru the walls and just silently key the transmitter.

    At that range it should be sufficient to fry every bit of electronic equipment they have switched on, an E.M. Pulse in other words. Theorectically of course.
     
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    It does seem like a difficult situation, and that all diplomatic channels have been exhausted. Going to their landlord seems like a good next move. Tennancy agreements usually include a clause about being respectful to the neighbours, so in effect they have broken their tennancy agreement. That means the landlord can kick them out, although I think a warning would be more likely in the first instance.

    When it gets to this point, you have to be tough. My mam was in a similar situation a couple of years ago. She'd done the polite bits numerous times, then gone to the council to get the environmental health officer to come and do some sound monitoring. They (the neighbours from hell) confronted my mam and threatened her with violence. That's never acceptable, but what's worse the bloke made threats too, against a little ageing woman. Now I'm not an aggressive lad, but I'm quite a big lad, and when I heard about this I saw red. Nobody threatens violence against my mam. I went over and put the fear of good into both the bloke and the woman. I had no intention of hitting anyone, but I wasn't going to let them know that. I made it abundantly clear that if there was so much as a peep out of them again, I would come back and 'rip their heads off'. The trouble is I lived away at the time and had to go back home a couple of days after the incident. A month later I was back, and was coming home from the pub with the wife when I saw a group of lads hanging out the front of the neighbours from hell. There was clearly a party going on. Two of the lads were leaning against my car smoking. I said to the wife, loud enough for the lads to hear, 'hang back and stay out the way' and then steamed forward, making sure each of the lads got their fair share of direct eye contact. They went in, and lo and behold the music got turned down. The thing is the whole thing was a bluff. I couldn't take on 3 or 4 lads at once, I was counting on them being cowards, and lucky for me they were.

    There landlord got word of all the aggro, and came round while they were out and changed the locks. He then got some sort of court order that meant they couldn't come back. Not sure of the details because that's all legal stuff, but I know the coppers had to come on more than one occassion. There's now a very nice lady in that house, that my mam has become good friends with.

    I'm not suggesting that aggression is the answer, but if you just happen to know some big lads who could 'have a word' without actually hurting anyone, then it would be good let them know of your situation.
     
  15. Victoria Plum

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    Well handled by you, and a horrid situation to find your mam in. Well my hubby is a big bloke, and like you would never hurt a flea, unless he was defending himself. But a very positive ending, so thank you for posting about it. Maybe there is hope!

    We will hopefully get hold of the agent on Monday, although the agent is not there today and we did go to the office, but they must be out on appointments. I'd rather go in and see them in person than catch the agent on a mobile when he's busy.

    I know lots of people suffer with neighbours. It really does ruin your enjoyment of your home. It ruins your homelife immeasurably.
     
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