Roses and my fresh start

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  1. Irvin

    Irvin Apprentice Gardener

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    [size=medium][size=small]Hi all[/size][/size][size=medium][size=small]I'm in the process of replanting at the front of my house, I have taken out two very tired and not all that great climbing roses that were woven in trellis (which has also had it) so I’ve taken all this out and am starting from fresh, see picture (last year). So I have bought some very nice fresh climbing roses with new trellis. Unfortunately I’m very new to all of this and I want to make sure I do it correct, so I have a few questions, if you don't mind:) [/size][/size][size=medium][size=small]Once the rose starts to grow, should I tie it to the trellis or train it in-between the wood? [/size][/size][size=medium][size=small]How do I ensure that I get roses all the way up and not just at the top? Something about it being horizontal?[/size][/size][size=medium][size=small]My wife to be is mad about jasmine and wants me to put that up the trellis also, is this ok to do? Its white flowering jasmine and the roses are Red[/size][/size][size=medium][size=small]Can anyone tell me what that pink flowering bush on the left of the picture is? I’d love to get another one...[/size][/size][size=small][size=medium]Thanks in advance[/size]J[/size][size=medium][size=small]Tom[/size][/size][hr]
    Sorry, i don't seem to be able to upload my photo:(
     
  2. wiseowl

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    Hi Irvin and welcome my friend:)

    Here is a diagram that might help you.:)Fasten the shoots downwards and outwards as a general rule;They will go straight up on their own accord easily enough.The three shoots with no leaves on show how to train your Roses up a wall.given suitable growth,A measurement I use is elbow to hand.:)
    This will ensure your blooms will grow at the bottom of your Rose.

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  3. Spruce

    Spruce Glad to be back .....

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    Hi Irvin

    You will need to repalce a lot of the soil because you had roses growing their before (rose sickness) or the roses will not flourish, probaly one of the rose experts on here will tell us more .

    I do grow white jasmine summer and the yellow flowering winter one and roses together on my fence panesl topped with trellis and clematis and honeysuckle 3 diffrent varieties they all have a tidy up about now , next door are realy happy as well , can look messy but I love that look of them growing together , but in your front garden you may want a neater look ?

    Hope this helps



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    Thanks Woo for your information to Irvin, as I have just planted 6 new climbing roses myself. :dbgrtmb:.
    I planted 3 Paul Scarlet and 3 Golden Shower in alternating colours.:thumb:.

    I was not quite sure as to the procedure of training them:scratch:.

    They are positioned against a 7 ft high x @25 ft length fence ,facing west. i have staple gunned onto the fence a very strong plastic mesh. my plan is to ,( eventually) intertwine them giving a whole wall of colour :dbgrtmb:.
    your diagram should do the business:dbgrtmb:. thank you again.:dbgrtmb:.
     
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    Hi Music its my pleasure:) Spruce I did,nt mention Rose sickness as I am a Rosarian who finds it very hard to believe it really exists,just my own personal opinion of course (Rosarians are divided over whether it exists at all):)

    I've read the suggestion that maybe there is a chemical residue left behind by the previous occupant, as with allelopathy. But there must be a million people who haven't heard of rose sickness who have replanted promptly in the same hole.:dbgrtmb:
     
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    This is just my absolutely clueless point of view, but if a rose has stopped doing well, and this rose sickness prevents other roses doing well in the same soil, doesn't that say more about the soil than the rose? I.e. the old rose simply used up all the nutrients in the soil and then started to starve, so the new rose in the same soil also starves? That being the case, changing the soil doesn't remove the 'sickness' it just replaces/repairs the structure and nutrient level.

    Or is that an oversimplistic view?
     
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    Find this intresting as I watched a garden programme years ago and they dug out the hole placed a large carboard box and filled that with fresh earth/compost , roses are not my strong point.

    I have planted last year rosa rugosa with holy and hawthorn hedge , I was thinking of taking cuttings this year is the Autumn the best time ? and can I plant them were I want them to grow ? how large as as well ?

    Spruce
     
  8. Irvin

    Irvin Apprentice Gardener

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    Thanks for the replies, thats really helpfull. I think i have enough to get started now. As for the soil, I was actually going to dig quite a bit of the old stuff out anyway as it's quite clayey soil.

    Tom
     
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