Pests? Can I classify my neighbours CAT as one?

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  1. whitbybunny

    whitbybunny Apprentice Gardener

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    Please, please don't turn against me!

    I am aware that cats are not insects etc. However I am most concerned that the only thing which could prevent my plans of a lovely garden this year is my neighbours cat.

    He/She visits for a daily constitutional. In the process a small hole is dug up, used and recovered.

    My worry is that I may spend money on new plants, or plant seedlings, only for them to be dug up.

    Is anyone aware of any smells etc that would put off a cat?

    I know that I am not worrying unnecessarily as the cat quite happily did it's business in amongst my vegetables in previous years.

    Any tips appreciated? Thanks in advance

    Julie
     
  2. ARMANDII

    ARMANDII Low Flying Administrator Staff Member

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    You wouldn't believe how much cats are discussed, liked and loathed on Gardeners Corner!!
    I've got 2 cats who can't get out because I've extended the height and design of my fences, which also means cats can't get in, but that's only a bonus as I did it to prevent my cats from coming to harm and also causing a nuisance.:thumbsup:

    Neighbours cats are without doubt a pain to people and once they establish a loo in your garden, like Arnie, they'll be back.:mad::heehee:

    Search for the Cat threads in the forum and you'll see what I mean.

    I'm lucky, my cats know better to dig or do damage in the garden [they know there's only 9 lives - if they're lucky] but I couldn't guarantee that with a neighbours cat who operate under different rules than home cats.
     
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    Cats again!

    This subject is brought up every month. You could use the search facility on here to see what has been said in the past Julie :thumbsup:
     
  4. Phil A

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    Have the same problem, its when they find freshly dug beds. Have a look at the top left hand of this pic.

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    You might be able to make out the mesh frames that I put over plants to keep cats & stupid pidgeons off till the plants have established.

    Its unlikely the cats will dig once the plants have got going.
     
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    The cats in my neighbourhood don't bother with soil anymore, they just go straight on my lawns. It drives me mad!:mad: There are five living next door but one alone, without the rest.
    I haven't had a dog for a few years now, and that was definitely a deterrent.
    Here on the island dogs have to be licenced so therefore if they stray you're in trouble! Dogs wear a numbered tag on their collars to trace back to their owners. Cats should be licenced aswell, perhaps the owners would think twice about letting them stray.
    Thanks Armandii............it's nice to know you take the responsibilities of a cat owner seriously. I wish many others would do the same. :dbgrtmb:
     
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      Wow!!!! ziggy, did cats do all that digging in your garden? :heehee:
       
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      Hi, I have 4 cats and yes they love to dig on freshly dug soil, sand even more so. Why not ask your neighbour to put some soft sand/soil in a small area of their garden with some soiled earth/cat litter on top to encourage their cats to use their own garden. Mine tend to use only my garden as there are plenty of freshly dug areas and I just clean it up, as Ziggy says once plants are fully grown they do little damage. I put tunnels of mesh over my seeds until the plants are large enough to survive on their own.
      I would be more than agreeable to do this if my cats were causing my neighbours problems.

      My parents sunk a large litter tray in their garden last year containing sand and their 3 cats used it regularly. Once my beds are all full of flowers and veg I will probably do this too.

      There are plants you can use and sprays that are supposed to deter cats, how successful they are though I don't know.
       
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        Armandii - I'd be interested to see what your fence looks like? I've been trying to think of ways to deter cats from my garden before I start digging and what not, because we all know once cats find a nice place to do their business, they do always come back!

        Also, I'd like to be able to have my have my guinea pigs outside without popping outside to see the neighbours cat standing beside their run drooling!! :$
         
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        HOW do you keep your cats in your garden? Please tell. We have 2 9 month old kittens and a cat hating neighbour.
         
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        Hi Smoo, my garden fence modifications only came about when I acquired a young ex-farm kitten/cat called Jenny some years ago. My other cat, Sally, isn't a wanderer after a bad experience she had and stays in the garden and house. Jenny on the other hand was everywhere she could get. I'd come home to find a neighbour handing her back to me, or going to rescue her from a neighbour's garden, or having to climb onto my garage roof which she'd somehow climbed onto but, of course, couldn't get down from:D

        So, firstly, I changed from Laplarch fencing to a more solid fence of rough cut 2"x 4" timber cut into 6' lengths. That was then dropped, horizontally, between the concrete fence posts to a height of 7'. Originally I thought that was that - but no Jenny climbed it with great joy and contempt, so I was back to rescuing her from other gardens and the garage roof again:gaagh:

        I then started to extend the height of the fences with 2" x 2" posts attached to the timber fences and stapled 3' high chicken wire to them. Because of work commitments and the length of the fences I only did a section which I thought Jenny was using. Wrong:cry3:
        I'd put a section up, she'd use another part of the fence..:cry3:

        This went on for weeks/months, me putting a section up, Jenny using another section. This got to the stage when I thought I done it, but I noticed Jenny was pacing up and down the fence eyeing it up - and she found a gap and was through:gaagh: So I put another section up, and as I was just finishing it off and congratulating myself, Jenny walked past me on the fence on the other side of the chicken wire section :gaagh: I won't tell you my thoughts!! I finally completed all the fences with the chicken wire extension and Jenny hasn't escaped since. By the way, the chicken wire seems to merge with the background because of it's thinness, so it doesn't stand out.

        The really important thing I discovered with the chicken wire is not to tighten it between the posts but to have it a little slack. The reason for that is when a cat attempts to climb it the weight of the cat pulls the chicken wire towards the cat, which finds itself leaning back while trying to climb - and they do not like that:yess: That, and the fact that the cat is leaning back while clinging to thin wire unnerves it badly.

        Like I said it took weeks/months of frustration to get it right, but Jenny can't get out and other cats don't get in.:yess::dancy::happydance:
         
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          Put up a large sign in cat language warning of dire consequences.
          Personally, I run screaming into the garden, barking like a dog whenever I see the black moggie that's been visiting me.
          It left a dead mouse outside my greenhouse door - I think it's trying to be friendly.
          Ain't gonna work, cat. Ain't gonna work!
           
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          You could be sectioned under the Mental Health Act for being "barking mad", Xoot, along with me and a few others I won't mention on this Forum!:heehee::yahoo:
          I'm sure my cats understand every word and gesture I say and make. then show me their bum as they walk away chortling to themselves. :hapfeet:
          Keeping cats out, or in, of the garden is a difficult one because a: the cat is an intelligent persistent animal and can climb with great agility, b: it will depend on the characteristics of the garden, it's entrances and exits, and it's boundaries, and c: also on the resources, determination of the gardener.:rolleyespink:
          I'm probably as stubborn as the cats and wouldn't give up on the problem. My garden and boundaries lends itself to the changing and raising of the fences. In all there was some several hundred feet to change and if you think it needs 21 x 6' lengths of 2"x 4" timber to make a 7' high section you need a lot of timber. I bought it all from the local timber yard and had to cut it into 6' lengths myself and then weather treat it before installing it. My entrances and exits to the garden have 8' smooth wooden "doors" which cats, including mine, have tried but failed to scale:yess:
          I'm lucky, and I know it, in having the resources and having the mindset not to let the problem beat me. It took a lot of effort, I admit. but there was no other answer to stopping Jenny from getting into trouble, injured or killed, and being a nuisance to my neighbours, and the fact that she hasn't escaped, or that other cats have got in, is proof that it was worth it and that it has worked:yess::hapfeet::yahoo:
           
        • whitbybunny

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          Thank you all for your comments. Realise now that it is quite a common issue. Wil try the cat litter diversion tactic first.

          Fingers crossed.

          PS: Will search the site next time before asking a question in case it has been covered before - thank for the tip
           
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          Ive more or less given up. My garden seems to be a feline nexus, there are at least 5 different entry points to my garden not including cats scrambling over fences.

          I chased one long term foe the entire length of the garden only to see him scale an 8 foot fence and gate. There is no way I can keep them out.

          Ive used rose prunings to block the entry points, also concrete slabs and large pots.

          Ive hung CDs from trees to scare them with sudden shadows, but that only succeeded in scaring me.

          I tried small piles of tumeric and chilli, and ended up with red and yellow rain streaks and red and yellow paw prints over the patio.

          The simple truth is to get where they are going cats have to cross my garden, leaving me not so precious gifts in their wake.
           
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