Vermiculite or perlite

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  1. RachelN76

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    Probably a really silly question, but what's the difference?

    Are they both used to encourage drainage? They're both about the same price from what I can see, so is there any advantage to one or the other, or do you use both for slightly different purposes?
     
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    They are both used for the same reason Rachel, water retention and aeration. The only difference is perlite is man made, polystyrene beads. Vermiculite is natural, Silica based.:dbgrtmb:
     
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    I think it's up to yourself Rachel. They both do the same job.
    I prefer Vermiculite just on aesthetic reasons - I don't like those little white blobs.
    If you're worried about the environmantal issues then vermiculite is a natural product but might not be all that environmenatally friendly at the end of the day. I'll leave you to google that.
    I use it and reckon the little I use will make no difference on the world scale of things.
    We all have to decide for ourselves.
     
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    Both are derived from natural minerals and there isn't a great deal of difference in how they perform from a horticultural point of view. I've used both according what's available in our local nursery.
    There may be a difference in environmental costs of production, but I've no idea. Might be worth a bit of sustained Googling if you are really keen to find out.
     
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    We had a thread before on this, and I think the general opinion was that vermiculite held more water than perlite, and so was better as a layer on top of seeds. Some people thought that it held rather too much water to be mixed in with the compost, and that perlite was better for that.
     
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    I agree with what PeterS said :)
     
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    I ditto what Peter said , I mix perlite with my seed compost and then sprinkle the seed with a thin layer of vermiculite. I have used this combination for this season only - and I think it has shown an improvement on germination rate and growth. Next year , being an avid experimenter , I will change this succesful combination and have a complete disaster !
     
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    I had wondered over this too and also what is best to use in patio pots, either of these or something else?
     
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    I use 50/50 multi purpose and vermiculite on most of my cuttings and have very good success rates ,My fuchsias and chrysanth cuttings love it .I think having that 50% multi purpose gives the newly rooted cuttings that little bit of nutrient, particularly when so much happening in the spring and they get left a while before potting on ..
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    thanks everyone. That's really interesting.

    I am quite interested in the environmental side of things, so I'll try to do a bit of research into the pros and cons of each. but I imagine it won't be conclusive, these things never seem to be!

    I have some perlite at the moment, so I'll use that up, then try some vermiculite and see which I prefer.
     
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    Can anyone tell me where you can get perlite at a reasonable price. I know you can get it in tiny bags in garden centres - but you pay a huge price for what you get. If you can buy 3 60 litre bags of compost for £10 - where can you get 3 60 litre bags of perlite for £10 ?
     
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    I have bought form JFC Munro - £10 / 100L - but dunno what their carriage costs are, you may have to add some other things to the order to make it ecconomical?

    Horticultural Trade Supplies Cornwall Devon Somerset & Dorset - JFC Monro, UK - horticulture, agrochemicals, fertilizer, pesticide

    and from 3C Hydroponics (grow lights and the like) £6.24 for 30 litres

    3C Hydroponics Shop - Perlite

    "I am quite interested in the environmental side of things, so I'll try to do a bit of research into the pros and cons of each."

    They are both bad, its a finite resource being used up. But I think previous worries of miners being killed because the mines also included asbestos are a thing of the past now.
     
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      Urgh. Don't like that very much.

      My perlite says that it's popped volcanic rock. So if the volcanos keep on exploding, we'll be OK?

      Are there any other alternatives?
       
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      Ah ... had never thought of it like that, we may be OK after all!

      Perlite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Sharp Sand will give you drainage, and leafmould will do a good job of moisture retention and providing symbiotic bugs to stimulate root growth, but unsterilised it is probably a bit of a liability for seedlings?
       
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      Thanks Kristen - thats a good price for perlite from JFC Munro - but delivery is the problem.
       
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