Taking the pee

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  1. clueless1

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    I know this is a taboo subject, but keep an open mind and bear with me:)

    This is something that's intrigued me for a while, so I've been doing some research. I know that pee contains nitrates and trace elements, but I'd heard and read conflicting reports about pathogens, caustic chemicals and other nasties.

    I remembered learning in science at school that urine was sterile, but that was back in the 1980s, and things might have moved on since.

    It seems that human wee is the perfect general purpose fertiliser, as long as it is very fresh. Within 24 hours the nutrient levels drop drastically, ammonia build up, and bacteria start to colonise it.

    I found this very interesting article that explains things quite well.

    Urine: the ultimate 'organic' fertiliser? - The Ecologist

    The article also does a very good job of explaining the environmental cost of wasting this free resource, with 2.5 billion litres of fresh water used every year in the UK alone to flush away our wee, and the energy used in removing said wee from the water to make it clean again.

    So there we have it. The article I linked to is not the totality of my research by the way, I just think its the best one to sum up the other articles I found.

    So I'm not taking the pee, or rather maybe I am. Human wee is a safe and effective, eco friendly, free and sustainable fertiliser. Although we shouldn't aim it at the top growth, its a rooting zone only one.
     
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      i dont see the problem,except maybe pee in a bottle then transfer to heap !!! (saves indecent exposure issues,whilst old muriel across the way is scrubbing her falsers at the kitchen sink)know a few folk who do it and have the most amazing compost and veg , tho again with the knowledge that they do it brings me to politely refuse the veg and the inclanation to keep my hands away from the compost !!!
       
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      This topic, quite rightly, has been brought up a number of times. :thumb:

      It has been known for donkey's years that pee is good for the compost heap. I'm fortunate that my compost heaps are not overlooked so can, and do, use it regularly. When working in the garden it is a great convenience :heehee:

      It is, obviously, not quite so easy for women and even for men, standing on a step ladder to pee into a dalek is not inconspicuous. :D

      Many of our members have said that they make use of this organic fertiliser. :dbgrtmb:
       
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      Y'see, I have this theory. I have friends (yes, it's true, I do!) who are basically 'townies' and who say that they prefer to buy organic fruit and veg whenever they can because '.. it tastes better'. Now, they don't live where I do and thus their back gardens don't back onto a field farmed by an 'organic farmer' who loves nothing better than to spread nice fresh slurry all over his fields. And what is slurry.....? I think we all know the answer to that!

      That said, I see no reason to waste a sustainable rescource which is never going to dry up (or, if it does, seek medical assistance), but I thought it was only men's pee that was any good.
       
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      Hello, I was told by the Envireomental Health Dept that Human ' pee' actually encourages Rats ? Has anyone else heard this ?
       
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      lol and i am no townie was brought up on a several 1000 acre shooting estate ,farmed most of my life,always said i was born to gather sh*t all my life ,shoot and gralloch animals,do taxidermy ect,dont believe in buying organic buy what looks freshish,just dont fancy the idea of eating something that a mate has pissed and pooed all over (all that would be in my head is the not so wonderful image of them squatting over there veg ),as yes that is what they do :mute: .and presently live in a tiny village surrounded by sea and mountains :yess:
       
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        It doesn't when I pee on them!! :loll: :loll:
         
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          I think you are thinking about female dogs pee being bad for lawns :heehee:
           
        • Phil A

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          Its Ecologically sound to pee on the ground.

          I've taken Armandii's advice and now have a bucket of fish offal, wee wee & wood ashes.

          Having put a new door on the wine cellar, I can't find the lock that I had ready to go on it, so the bucket is standing sentry at the door.

          NON SHALL PASS :paladin:
           
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          Lol.. No , absolutely serious... I had a huge problem with rats where I used to live. They came out and said ' well there's no rubbish ( they love that ) , there's no Bird feeders .. Followed by , ' well unless the family regularly have a wee in the garden !! I cant think why you have so many. I asked him about wee' he said they are actually attracted by human wee... Hmmmm
           
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          They , being Enviromental Health Dept ... not the rats ....lol
           
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          :WINK1: :D Love it bambooruth.. I have lived all my life in the countryside except for a few years in my teens.. My family are country people & farmers & I think you are tuned to your surroundings & folklore from a very young age.. :thumbsup:

          :WINK1: BTW.. The male pee is good for marking your territory against badgers... So it does have a specific "other" use as well...!! :D :heehee:
           
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          Maybe that's why the rats now don't come past the bottom of the garden. They used to come as far as the patio and had eaten the walls of my sheds and up through the floors.

          Of course, it could also be that we replaced the sheds with a metal one at the bottom of the garden and Oscar the cat doesn't allow intruders. :heehee:
           
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          Oh happy days! I'm fortunate enough to live in Poole (so near Bournemouth).Bournemouth has a profusion of care/rest homes. I'm off now to offer my services. I will empty leg bags etc, return home, empty my spoils onto the garden and then sit back and await for extrordinary results from my plants
           
        • Phil A

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          Very strange, i'm attracted to ginger haired girls with green eyes, but i'd soon starve to death if they were the only form of nutrient in the neighbourhood.:scratch:
           
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